Pet theories

[Spotty]

Thanks barnflatwyngard I tend to agree with you and will go and re-read that thread again. Most interesting.

[barnflatwyngarde]

Welcome Spotty
Well I guess if there is any silver lining in the shawl fiasco is that it has drawn more people to ripperology! : )

My "Pet Theory" is that the blotchy faced man described by witness cox seen entering Mary's room on the night of her murder is most likely of the suspects to be her killer and thus Jack the ripper.

I believe I am the only one on here that favors him, although recent poster Barnflatwyngard has also mentioned him lately.

My theory in a nutshell is as follows:

Mary Kelly was described by the various witnesses as being with four men that night-recently ex-boyfriend Barnett, Blotchy, Hutchinson and Hutchinson's "suspect"-the man in an astrahcan jacket, AKA A-man.

I believe that she is the key to the mystery as IMHO it seems that out of all the victims she may have known her killer.

I think there is a high probability that one of the men she was with that night was her killer. Why go looking for suspect X, especially in the case of Kelly, when there is zero evidence, of any other man being with her that night, other than the four the witnesses describe?

lets take a look at these four men:

Barnett: defacto initial suspect, as he was a recent ex. However, he was interrogated and cleared, by the police, has an alibi, and did not act in any suspicious manner immediately following the murder-ie-basically not trying to run away, stay unnoticed by the police, and attends the inquest.

Hutch: waits till after the inquest to come forward, was seen waiting outside marys room approx. time of the murder, and gives an almost impossible detailed description of the suspect. However, was questioned by police, apparently believed, and was never a suspect. Possibly out for a little fame and fortune.

A-Man-IMHO more than likely a fictitious character invented by hutch. Note-if Hutch was telling the truth than certainly Aman was her killer. However, no one in the history of this case has ever seriously considered Aman as the ripper-and that's telling.

Blotchy-IMHO he is the last credible suspect seen with Mary Kelly. he is seen with her entering her room, NEVER comes forward, is the profile of the local, AV joe serial killer, and fits the description of Joseph Lawendes suspect, who was the best witness in the whole case according to the police.

The witness cox was a very credible witness, believed by the police, was at the inquest and no reason to doubt her. Her story is corroborated by other witnesses.

IMHO Mary Kelly had no inclination nor werewithall to go out after Blotchy. She was very drunk, seemingly very comfortable with him, had a roof over her head for the night, a warm fire and it was a cold and rainy night.

I believe Blotchy the most likely to be her killer and therefore Jack the ripper.

Welcome aboard Spotty.

I agree with Abby's excellent posting re the blotchy faced man seen with Mary Kelly at 11.45pm on Thursday 8th November.

My original posting postulated the theory that Kelly was so drunk when she entered Miller's Court with Blotchy, that it was highly unlikely that she would venture out again into a cold rainy evening.
If this scenario is correct, then it is highly likely that Blotchy was the killer.

If you want to catch up on the debate on my posting, you can find it in Victims - Mary Jane Kelly - How Drunk Was Mary?

[Sally]

If Blotchy was ill with something else he`s done well to be wandering around after midnight with young ladies.

You know what they say - Where there's a will, there's a way...

No - it's an interesting thought, the whole septicaemia thing - but unsupported. We'll never know for sure, of course, but chronic alcoholism has the dubious benefit of having been endemic in that time and place.

Sometimes I wonder if the details of this case can end up under the microscope for too long.

[Jon Guy]

Along with that fact, yes.

Indeed , Christer.

If Blotchy was ill with something else he`s done well to be wandering around after midnight with young ladies.

[Fisherman]

Along with the fact that the man in question was wandering round with a pot of ale in his hand.

Along with that fact, yes.

Fisherman

[Jon Guy]

Statistically, it will have the suggestion of septicemia well and truly beaten, at any rate.

Along with the fact that the man in question was wandering round with a pot of ale in his hand.

[Fisherman]

Yeah - I think that's been suggested before somewhere - or else he was just a chronic drinker, like so many of the contemporary population.

Statistically, it will have the suggestion of septicemia well and truly beaten, at any rate.

The best,
Fisherman

[Sally]

Perhaps Blotchy had a bad case of rosacea?

Yeah - I think that's been suggested before somewhere - or else he was just a chronic drinker, like so many of the contemporary population.

[Jon Guy]

From the Chicago Daily Tribune July 25th 1889, describing the East enders who lined the route of Alice McKenzie`s funeral cortege:

There were walls of faces, male and female, old and young, ruddy and gin stained, fair to look at and unpleasant to see.

[lynn cates]

music

Hello Christer. Say, you may have hit it.

Confusion? Yes, that might include someone who pays a prostitute for sex but gladly settles for Irish folk music. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Rosella]

Perhaps Blotchy had a bad case of rosacea?

[Sally]

What I would like to know is whether you are in a condition to go boozing on the town once the blotches are there. Septicemia is a very quickly developing disease.

I think that unlikely Fisherman. You're right, it's a very fast acting condition. I had it last year [to my surprise, even now] and it was astonishing how quickly it developed. You could almost watch the infection develop.

If Blotchy did have it, he probably went off to die somewhere - perhaps that's why he was never traced!

[Spotty]

Well the job he did on Mary could definitely be the work of a man in a fever, to say the least.

[Fisherman]

G'day Damaso

Septicemia can cause a rash, but I don't think that I'd call it Blotchy by any stretch.

I think Damaso may have this under control, actually. From the Bupa website:

Septicaemia symptoms

Septicaemia can occur with or without meningitis. The symptoms can include:

sudden onset of a high fever
being sick
pale or blotchy skin
difficulty breathing
shivering or having cold hands and feet
aching limbs or joints
a rash
drowsiness, confusion or loss of consciousness

What I would like to know is whether you are in a condition to go boozing on the town once the blotches are there. Septicemia is a very quickly developing disease.

The best,
Fisherman

[GUT]

G'day Damaso

Septicemia can cause a rash, but I don't think that I'd call it Blotchy by any stretch.