Councidences

[Fantomas]

Fair point Caz. I just think we should be more mindful that people were murdered horrorifically is all.

I find self righteousness in the face of other peoples' tragedies more distasteful than gallows humour, frankly.

[c.d.]

A woman who was somehow permitted to run up a debt at Millers Court without any form of reproach.

Many possible and reasonable explanations for this have been presented, R.D. Is there a reason you like to surround it in suspicion?

c.d.

[John Wheat]

I find self righteousness in the face of other peoples' tragedies more distasteful than gallows humour, frankly.

The original post wasn't funny though. Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of comedians like Frankie Boyle and Jimmy Car but if your going to make a joke out of someone's misfortune atleast make it funny.

[Patrick Differ]

Suspect Jacob Levy lived on Fieldgate Street for 4 years which is halfway between Bucks Row and Berner Street. He then moved to #36 Middlesex Street which is central to the Tabrum, Chapman, Eddowes and Kelly Murders. # 36 Middlesex Street was owned by witness Joseph Hyam Levys mother Francis.

[caz]

Fair point Caz. I just think we should be more mindful that people were murdered horrorifically is all.

Yeah, sorry. I completely forgot that Stride and Eddowes were murdered 'horrorifically'.

For what it's worth, I did once wonder if the Ripper knew Stride and Kidney, and ironically removed Eddowes's kidney out of spite - kind of like the speculation about a link between the GSG and Eddowes calling herself "Nothing".

I've grown up a bit since then, but my sense of humour can still be rather immature.

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

The original post wasn't funny though. Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of comedians like Frankie Boyle and Jimmy Car but if your going to make a joke out of someone's misfortune atleast make it funny.

Funnily enough, John, my aim was not to make you laugh.

I'm an optimist, but there are limits.

Love,

Caz
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[Fantomas]

Yeah, sorry. I completely forgot that Stride and Eddowes were murdered 'horrorifically'.

For what it's worth, I did once wonder if the Ripper knew Stride and Kidney, and ironically removed Eddowes's kidney out of spite - kind of like the speculation about a link between the GSG and Eddowes calling herself "Nothing".

I've grown up a bit since then, but my sense of humour can still be rather immature.

Love,

Caz
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I see nothing for you to apologise for. You want to accompany a modern murder squad investigation. It’s not conversation you’d find at one’s Great Aunt’s tea party in 1976, let’s put it that way.

[Tom_Wescott]

The Ripper disagreed, saying it tasted "very nise".

I'm doing a slow clap over here. Good one.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[seanr]

A coincidence I've only really just noticed, which might be contrary to expectations.

Before becoming the Commissioner of Police, Sir Charles Warren served in South Africa from 1876 - 1885. Initially working at the border of between Griqualand West and the Orange Free State. Whilst there he met with Cecil Rhodes and other early founders of the diamond mines. Sir Charles became the Administrator of Griqualand West in 1879. Barney Barnato the notable British diamond magnate spoke on the 30th of October, 1888 in his first speech in support of his candidature in the Cape Colony House of Assembly General Election. He recalled dealing with Sir Charles Warren:

As far back as 1880 I was a member of the Kimberley Town Council, and I was instrumental in bringing the water into Kimberley. I was one of your municipal representatives who met Sir Charles Warren, at that time the Administrator of Griqualand West, on the subject of a water supply ; and he told us that it was too premature for us to think of bringing in a water supply on our own account. But, in spite of such an opinion, and of other criticism upon our attempt to confer such a boon upon Kimberley, I was one of the heartiest supporters of Tom Lynch in his enterprise of providing an abundant water supply.

As maybe recalled before becoming a kopje-walloper and diamond mine owner, Barney Barnato was an amateur boxer, entertainer and the family owned the pub 'The King of Prussia' at 93 Middlesex Street before it was demolished during the restructuring of Middlesex Street sometime around 1880. Barnato maintained his links to the East End and the boxing fraternity, often returning to the East End during the Jewish holidays and to attend at the former Great Synagogue.

During passover 1885, the boxing promoter John McCarthy staged a boxing event at the St James Tavern in Dukes Place, to raise funds for the Victoria Park hospital. According to Robert Patrick Watson (anonymised) coverage when John McCarthy was managing the opening of the Ring boxing club at Blackfriars, Barney Barnato was present at and even officiated as the referee at this event. Given both mens standing in the East End community, this is distinctly plausible.

The coincidence therefore is that both Sir Charles Warren, the Commissioner of Police in 1888, and John McCarthy, Mary Kelly's landlord, shared a mutual acquantance with Barney Barnato. Who was at the time, thought to be the richest man in the entire world.

It really is a small world.