What's your "Standard of Proof"

[Pontius2000]

So why if Torso was shown to be a suspect he is Jack, but if Torso was never a suspect he is not?

been drinking?

[GUT]

"What level of proof, persuasion do you want, before you say 'case closed'?"


If that's not what you asked in your original post, then explain again what you were asking.

Yes, if a known JtR suspect were definitely linked to a murder that "might be" a JtR crime, that would do it for me. No new evidence is coming out on one of the canonical 5 crimes, but new evidence COULD feasibly come out on Jackson or the torso since there were body parts never recovered.

So why if Torso was shown to be a suspect he is Jack, but if Torso was never a suspect he is not?

[Pontius2000]

Well actually it wasn't what the original poster asked for, .

"What level of proof, persuasion do you want, before you say 'case closed'?"


If that's not what you asked in your original post, then explain again what you were asking.

Yes, if a known JtR suspect were definitely linked to a murder that "might be" a JtR crime, that would do it for me. No new evidence is coming out on one of the canonical 5 crimes, but new evidence COULD feasibly come out on Jackson or the torso since there were body parts never recovered.

[Barnaby]

The Holy Grail.

Possible. Charles Warren could have discovered this during his excavations under the Temple Mount!

[GUT]

Kosminski is a known suspect. The torso is a "possible" JtR victim. If there were a definitive link between the two, it would convince me. That's what the original poster asked for.

Well actually it wasn't what the original poster asked for, but I get your point.

You think that if someone committed a murder that a small minority attribute to the ripper then that person must have committed the rest of the ripper murders.

[Pontius2000]

But only if Pinchin Street was a Ripper job.

Kosminski is a known suspect. The torso is a "possible" JtR victim. If there were a definitive link between the two, it would convince me. That's what the original poster asked for.

[GUT]

G'day Pontious

If the Pinchin St turned up and was definitively linked to say, Aaron Kosminski, it would be hard enough proof for me that he was JtR

But only if Pinchin Street was a Ripper job.

[Pontius2000]

But surely, if such evidence existed, we wouldn't be here?

There are many many things that are long lost. With what we now know about criminal psychology, etc it could help us at least come to a better understandning of who the killer was if we had all the info that they had at the time.

[Pontius2000]

Well, at least insofar as the torso murders are concerned. Actually, insofar as one of the torso murders was concerned. It would be quite a leap from there to assert we'd also caught Jack the Ripper.That would be more like it. Better still, if we had a convincing, authenticated confession, ideally together with a box containing some organic trophies. (Given the passage of time, they'd be "atrophies" by now, I guess.)

If the Pinchin St turned up and was definitively linked to say, Aaron Kosminski, it would be hard enough proof for me that he was JtR

[GUT]

G'day Pinkmoon

Hi gut,I would love to know what sir Melvilles "private information" was I think it would either greatly disappoint us or potential solve this case.

The Holy Grail.

[Wickerman]

....or if some long lost police document or evidence came to light/re-discovered that shed further proof toward a suspect.

But surely, if such evidence existed, we wouldn't be here?

[pinkmoon]

Hi gut,I would love to know what sir Melvilles "private information" was I think it would either greatly disappoint us or potential solve this case.

[Sam Flynn]

If a previously undiscovered skull, like that of Elizabeth Jackson or the Pinchin St Torso were discovered and definitely linked to a known suspect or a likely suspect, it would be convincing for me.

Well, at least insofar as the torso murders are concerned. Actually, insofar as one of the torso murders was concerned. It would be quite a leap from there to assert we'd also caught Jack the Ripper.

or if some long lost police document or evidence came to light/re-discovered that shed further proof toward a suspect.

That would be more like it. Better still, if we had a convincing, authenticated confession, ideally together with a box containing some organic trophies. (Given the passage of time, they'd be "atrophies" by now, I guess.)

[Pontius2000]

If a previously undiscovered skull, like that of Elizabeth Jackson or the Pinchin St Torso were discovered and definitely linked to a known suspect or a likely suspect, it would be convincing for me.

Or if one of the more "believable" letters, like the "from hell" letter, were definitively linked to a known and likely suspect.

or if some long lost police document or evidence came to light/re-discovered that shed further proof toward a suspect.

[Fisherman]

That's right. There are some people who would only be convinced if the same woman was killed five times in the exact same way, in the exact same location, and at the exact same time. Even then they would probably express some doubts that it was the same killer.

c.d.

Well, no one killer could kill a woman simultaneously five times, c.d., so there may be something to the suggestion - there must have been five killers, I gather.

Fisherman