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The Ripper is pretty hardcore, so to speak, even for serial killers.
It's not as easy to find information on him as it is with other killers, most from the 20th c., who are far better documented and many have been caught. There is much in the way of legend and even myth about Jack the Ripper, stemming often from the Victorian newspapers themselves. This alone can make Ripperology a daunting task when multiple books disagree on information that is usually on more solid footing with other serial killers, e.g., how many victims and who, where. This can make the whole thing seem futile to someone who is used to 20th c. FBI profiling with a cut and dry 'He killed 9 people, his name is Oops More Smilies and he lives in Doncaster.' We just can't find this with Jack.
It also takes an incredibly strong stomach. I'm not saying that researching other killers doesn't, but one need only look at MJK to realise that JTR wasn't just hammering people to death; he wanted to remove their organs, their faces, their identities, their being. And it shows. I've often scrolled past pictures of MJK thinking 'Nope I don't need to see that today, thanks.' And it's just a photograph to us; imagine the PTSD of the officers who had to be in the room with her body. I can understand not really wanting to take that thought further.
The third reason I think is because 1888 is another universe now, where cultural norms and understandings don't really apply. We can kind of see ourselves in the 70s and 80s, but not the 1880s. It makes reading through documents that much harder when you realise people aren't using the same cultural and medical understandings as you, let alone the fact that one clock might say 5 and one might say 10 past 5 and no-one knows when the train went past can make working out even basic Victorian time management a massive headache. This as well as the fact that the police don't use the same methods they do today and half of them are more like military men than law enforcement, which means they make decisions that seem odd to us. Unless you're also a fan of Victoriana and take the time to understand late 19th c. English cultural intricacies and nuances, JTR probably isn't your flavour of serial killer.Last edited by Tani; 10-31-2024, 12:34 PM.O have you seen the devle
with his mikerscope and scalpul
a lookin at a Kidney
With a slide cocked up.
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Originally posted by Tani View PostThe Ripper is pretty hardcore, so to speak, even for serial killers.
It's not as easy to find information on him as it is with other killers, most from the 20th c., who are far better documented and many have been caught. There is much in the way of legend and even myth about Jack the Ripper, stemming often from the Victorian newspapers themselves. This alone can make Ripperology a daunting task when multiple books disagree on information that is usually on more solid footing with other serial killers, e.g., how many victims and who, where. This can make the whole thing seem futile to someone who is used to 20th c. FBI profiling with a cut and dry 'He killed 9 people, his name is Oops More Smilies and he lives in Doncaster.' We just can't find this with Jack.
It also takes an incredibly strong stomach. I'm not saying that researching other killers doesn't, but one need only look at MJK to realise that JTR wasn't just hammering people to death; he wanted to remove their organs, their faces, their identities, their being. And it shows. I've often scrolled past pictures of MJK thinking 'Nope I don't need to see that today, thanks.' And it's just a photograph to us; imagine the PTSD of the officers who had to be in the room with her body. I can understand not really wanting to take that thought further.
The third reason I think is because 1888 is another universe now, where cultural norms and understandings don't really apply. We can kind of see ourselves in the 70s and 80s, but not the 1880s. It makes reading through documents that much harder when you realise people aren't using the same cultural and medical understandings as you, let alone the fact that one clock might say 5 and one might say 10 past 5 and no-one knows when the train went past can make working out even basic Victorian time management a massive headache. This as well as the fact that the police don't use the same methods they do today and half of them are more like military men than law enforcement, which means they make decisions that seem odd to us. Unless you're also a fan of Victoriana and take the time to understand late 19th c. English cultural intricacies and nuances, JTR probably isn't your flavour of serial killer." Still it is an error to argue in front of your data. You find yourself insensibly twisting them round to fit your theories."
Sherlock Holmes
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