Name the Name with a short answer why please :D

[Wickerman]

Andrei Chikatilo stopped for a period.
The actions of a serial killer are triggered by something, if that something is removed, the killer stops.
This was realized with Chikatilo.

[clark2710]

That's interesting! But if this man was Jack, why didn't he strike again until 1892? I have a feeling that Jack was either institutionalized for some other reason or he died after Mary's murder. I'm on the fence about Alice McKenzie being a Ripper victim.

The Common theory and mostly accepted today by LE and experts I do believe is that Serial Killers never stop, unless they're caught, dead, or otherwise have to...something has to make them stop...that they can't help it and eventually they'll do their thing. I agree that Jack was likely institutionalized or jailed and they didn't know they had him. But that can't always be the case can it? I have to do some reading on this...Do serial killers ever just stop?

[Ms Diddles]

Even since I read about the BGM his description has been stuck in my head so we I came across this article from a supposed attack on November 24th 1892 I was very surprised. This man both had odd looking eyes, also possibly having heterochromia and walked with a strange stomping gait.

Interesting article!

I find it hard to believe that Jack would have "announced his intention to do for..." the victim.

The lack of noise and signs of a struggle (with the possible exception of MJK) would indicate a blitz style attack, not one where the victim was made aware of what was about to happen.

I guess it could be artistic license on the part of the prospective victim (or indeed the journalist) though.

[Marie Jeanette Davies]

Even since I read about the BGM his description has been stuck in my head so we I came across this article from a supposed attack on November 24th 1892 I was very surprised. This man both had odd looking eyes, also possibly having heterochromia and walked with a strange stomping gait.

That's interesting! But if this man was Jack, why didn't he strike again until 1892? I have a feeling that Jack was either institutionalized for some other reason or he died after Mary's murder. I'm on the fence about Alice McKenzie being a Ripper victim.

[Astatine211]

Thats pretty much all there is. The other men seen by PC Smith, Packer, at the Bricklayers Arms, and by Bowyer could all be someone else. It's just that the Bethnal Green Man/Britannia Man had an awkward way of walking, and something wrong with his eyes.
The man seen by Bowyer, & the man seen at the Bricklayers Arms, also had something wrong with his eyes.

Even since I read about the BGM his description has been stuck in my head so we I came across this article from a supposed attack on November 24th 1892 I was very surprised. This man both had odd looking eyes, also possibly having heterochromia and walked with a strange stomping gait.

[Marie Jeanette Davies]

Something wrong with his eyes like this maybe?

https://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4924/13776.html.

Post 1142.

Coincidence?

More like an eerie gaze, I think.

[mpriestnall]

In my humble opinion, Jack was an unknown local man who looked kinda creepy (I'm thinking about the individual seen by Thomas Bowyer that had something wrong with his eyes or the Bethnal Green Botherer), but at the same time was capable of blending in.

Something wrong with his eyes like this maybe?

https://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4924/13776.html.

Post 1142.

Coincidence?

[Marie Jeanette Davies]

In my humble opinion, Jack was an unknown local man who looked kinda creepy (I'm thinking about the individual seen by Thomas Bowyer that had something wrong with his eyes or the Bethnal Green Botherer), but at the same time was capable of blending in.

[Scott Nelson]

Hey! That blows my Harry Dam theory out of the water. Oh well ... maybe not.

[Scott Nelson]

OK, thanks for that Caroline. I'll await with any future revelations with interest.

[caz]

I am surer than ever, Scotty, based on my current understanding of the evidence, and what the people closest to the events know about what happened. But until the whole story can be made available for public scrutiny, I can see why others remain highly sceptical, and prefer to put the two established events on that date, both related to the Maybricks, down to an extraordinary quirk of fate.

What appears to be the sticking point for many people is the implication that if the diary was found in the Maybrick house it would somehow increase the likelihood of it being genuine, which to me seems rather illogical, as it would still be the same diary in every other respect. Where would one expect a hoaxer to place it, to be consistent with the final entries, if not in the room where Maybrick died? If I wanted to fake Jimmy Savile's diary, for instance, and sensibly chose to remain anonymous , I would make sure to leave it somewhere with a direct connection to the sick bastard, for maximum impact - regardless of whether it was an obvious spoof or faintly credible. I certainly wouldn't want anyone claiming its previous owner was some random dead bloke with no links to anything.

Love,

Caz
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[Scott Nelson]

And that date Caroline, March 9, 1992. Are we sure that was also when the diary came out of Battlecrease House?

[caz]

I don't know Caroline. Yes, Devereux died in 1991, but I'm not so sure about the rest. Chronology and events become confused once the Diary got into the hands of Mike Barrett.

Well, that's hardly surprising, Scotty. Mike Barrett had the strangest relationship with dates and chronology in general, right from the moment he put himself centre stage on March 9, 1992, by claiming to have JtR's diary. He was completely hopeless, whether he was telling obvious lies about when an event happened, or was genuinely trying to recall a date that was personal to him and getting it wildly wrong. The one date he didn't struggle to remember was Monday April 13, 1992, when he took the diary to London to be scrutinised for the first time.

Add to this Mike's ignorance about where the diary had been before he got hold of it, which meant he had to lie about it, using his dead pal for the purpose, and it's little wonder that the story would be plagued by confusion from day one.

Love,

Caz
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[JeffHamm]

While it's probable that the police spoke to JtR, for us, I think we're looking at "person unknown."

- Jeff

[Scott Nelson]

Reported age 23 - but how old did he look? And why didn't he age at all when the death certificate was filed, January 1890?