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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Originally posted by Ms Diddles View Post

    Interesting, Herlock.

    I have many books on the subject, but "Summing Up & Verdict" seems to have passed me by.

    Is it any good?
    I enjoyed it at the time as a good introduction to the case. It’s been years since I read it though. There are so many books being churned out these days that you could spend every bit of spare cash on them. Some of them are awful but we do get some worthwhile ones (Jacob the Ripper and The Escape...for eg). I’ve got around 320 or so but I think that I only bought 3 or 4 last year. I’ll get Fisherman’s book but I don’t know of any others on the horizon? I’ve been buying a few historical true crime books recently, all reasonably priced. Plus there’s a new one on the Wallace case out on Wednesday which I pre-ordered.

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  • Ms Diddles
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    Unlike Gary and Magoo I have no link to the East End. I’m from Catherine Eddowes/ William Bury territory though, so maybe one of my ancestors knew one of them? Yeah, probably not.

    I was first introduced to the case by reading the same book that introduced Colin Wilson to the case. The Fifty Most Amazing True Crimes Ed. Parrish and Crossland ( I think that’s the title but I’m not at home at the moment) which had a chapter on the Ripper. It belonged to a Great Aunt and I was hoping that she’d let me have it but a family rift put an end to that. Years later I bought a copy which I still have. I then went to WH Smith to see if they had anything on the case. They had two books but I could only afford one so I bought Summing Up And Verdict by Wilson and Odell. A couple of weeks later I returned with the money for the other which was Knight’s Final Solution. Brilliant story....case solved! Not quite. I just grew more and more interest in the different theories and how people interpreted the same evidence differently. Being a Sherlock Holmes fan the era held a certain magic for me but I was reminded that it wasn’t all rosy-cheeked ladies of the night saying “hello dearie” and chirpy cockney costers tipping their caps and saying “Gor blimey guv’nor.” I had a period where I was buying new books on the case every week (including pamphlets, facsimiles and magazines.) I only buy certain books now.
    Interesting, Herlock.

    I have many books on the subject, but "Summing Up & Verdict" seems to have passed me by.

    Is it any good?

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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    Unlike Gary and Magoo I have no link to the East End. I’m from Catherine Eddowes/ William Bury territory though, so maybe one of my ancestors knew one of them? Yeah, probably not.

    I was first introduced to the case by reading the same book that introduced Colin Wilson to the case. The Fifty Most Amazing True Crimes Ed. Parrish and Crossland ( I think that’s the title but I’m not at home at the moment) which had a chapter on the Ripper. It belonged to a Great Aunt and I was hoping that she’d let me have it but a family rift put an end to that. Years later I bought a copy which I still have. I then went to WH Smith to see if they had anything on the case. They had two books but I could only afford one so I bought Summing Up And Verdict by Wilson and Odell. A couple of weeks later I returned with the money for the other which was Knight’s Final Solution. Brilliant story....case solved! Not quite. I just grew more and more interest in the different theories and how people interpreted the same evidence differently. Being a Sherlock Holmes fan the era held a certain magic for me but I was reminded that it wasn’t all rosy-cheeked ladies of the night saying “hello dearie” and chirpy cockney costers tipping their caps and saying “Gor blimey guv’nor.” I had a period where I was buying new books on the case every week (including pamphlets, facsimiles and magazines.) I only buy certain books now.

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  • Ms Diddles
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    That's really interesting Magoo / Mr Barnett.

    I always find it fascinating when people reveal a personal connection to the case.

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  • MrBarnett
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    Originally posted by magoo View Post
    My gt gt grandmother,Mary Ann Jane Ellett died (suicide ) in the east end in 1888 the coroner was Macdonald. A google search of any of those details always leads to an entry for Jack the Ripper. My ancestors lived in Thomas street Whitechapel some were baptised in Christchurch Spitalfields and others at Saint Leonards Shoreditch another had a pub in Fieldgate street .This site gives me an insight into the times and places they lived in and for all I know one of them may have known the ripper or have unknowingly walked past him one day
    Pretty much the same for me, Magoo.

    My maternal grandmother was born in Breezers Hill in 1896. Her sister attended Berner Street school. She (my grandmother) married a man who, as a child between March, 1888 and December, 1890, had lived in George Yard Buildings and then, after his father died in the Whitechapel Infirmary, moved to nearby Angel Alley. When they married, she was living in Pinchin Street and he was living in Mary Ann Street.

    On my dad’s side, my Barnett ancestors were horse slaughterers who lived and worked in and around Winthrop Street (then Little North Street) from 1810 to 1860, and who later worked for Harrison, Barber in Islington.

    There’s lots more...

    I read Stephen Knight’s book when it first came out and for a while I was very interested in the case, but eventually that waned - until I started doing family research and kept finding myself on Casebook. At first I thought, ‘What a bunch of weirdos!’ but I was gradually drawn into the mystery of the case and even more so became fascinated by its context - the abyss of the late Victorian East End.



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  • magoo
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    My gt gt grandmother,Mary Ann Jane Ellett died (suicide ) in the east end in 1888 the coroner was Macdonald. A google search of any of those details always leads to an entry for Jack the Ripper. My ancestors lived in Thomas street Whitechapel some were baptised in Christchurch Spitalfields and others at Saint Leonards Shoreditch another had a pub in Fieldgate street .This site gives me an insight into the times and places they lived in and for all I know one of them may have known the ripper or have unknowingly walked past him one day

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  • Ms Diddles
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    Hmmmmmm!

    I too have wondered to myself about the source of my fascination with this case.

    For me, I think it is to do with my childhood obsession with Agatha Christie novels.

    I grew up thinking that all mysteries had a nice, neat and ingenious solution.

    It was a bit of a revelation to me when the centenary hit in 1988 and at 12 years old, I learned of this huge, famous, intricate UNSOLVED case.

    It irked me that we didn't know who was responsible, and it has left a stone in my shoe ever since.

    The more I read about the case, the more interested I became in it's backdrop; London in the LVP ,as well as the lives of the victims and suspects, the history of the police force, the political climate of the time etc.

    That stone is still there though, and I would be eternally grateful if someone would remove it!




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  • Losmandris
    started a topic Why are you drawn to the case?

    Why are you drawn to the case?

    What is it about the Whitechapel case that so appeals to you? Is it a desire to unmask the killer? Unearth information relating to the victims? Uncovering a grand conspiracy that has been hidden all these years or just a general interest in History? Maybe the sense of community on this site?

    I think for me its a particular interest in time period and history in general, combined with a bit of a childhood fascination with the case and the fact I used to live in the area a few years back.

    How about you? Would love to hear some replies!

    Tristan
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