What Does It Mean to "Know" Someone?

[caz]

An excellent point. If the victims had major concerns about clients. prostitution was a poor choice of profession.

c.d.

I know what you meant, c.d, but we don't know how much 'choice' any of the victims believed they had in the matter. If their choice was limited to which men they would be prepared to spend any time alone with, for the price of their next meal, drink or bed, they might well have favoured someone they had seen around, over a total stranger, but anyone who acted friendly and bought them a drink at some point would probably have been considered worth taking a risk with.

Love,

Caz
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[c.d.]

this murder evidence almost screams that victim and killer knew each other.

This is a quote from Michael Richards on the killer scoping out sites thread.

See how often that phrase gets used?

c.d.

[NotBlamedForNothing]

imho at the very least... not the first time youve met. your example i would say you know her, just not well.probably be more accurate to say youve met her at this point.

I don't think meeting once or more times is necessary, to claim to know someone.

I've read many of your posts since I've been in this forum, and I know you Abby, I know you!

[c.d.]

If they have money, and alcohol, and you are desperate... maybe not very well at all.

An excellent point. If the victims had major concerns about clients. prostitution was a poor choice of profession.

c.d.

[Azarna]

Thanks for the response, Abby. I guess the big question is how well do you have to "know" someone before you open your door and invite them in?

c.d.

If they have money, and alcohol, and you are desperate... maybe not very well at all.

[c.d.]

Thanks for the response, Abby. I guess the big question is how well do you have to "know" someone before you open your door and invite them in?

c.d.

[Azarna]

That is a very good point. It is a "woolly" word that doesn't really say as much as it initially appears to.

If Kelly "knew" Eddowes it could mean any of the following:

• recognised her by sight
• knew her name
• had heard about her from others
• said hello when she saw her
• spoke with her sometimes
• had a good chin-wag now and then
• went drinking with her
• was very friendly with her
• worked the streets with her (like Martha Tabram and Pearly Poll)
• was her best mate
• was her lover
• was her sworn enemy!

Unfortunately, like a lot of ambiguous English words, it gets used a lot and is rarely questioned.

[Abby Normal]

I see this phrase tossed around quite a bit especially as it applies to Kelly and Eddowes in reference to their relationship with their respective killers. But what exactly does it mean? It can certainly cover a wide gamut from intimate lover to someone they just met earlier in the day.

By way of example, we have a new person working the front desk in my apartment building. I introduced myself and learned her first name but other than that I know nothing else about her. I don't know where she lives, whether she is married and has children or where she worked before. Can I say I know her?

It just seems to me that if you want to use the phrase to put forth an argument or theory that you need to qualify exactly what you are implying. "Know?" Ok, but how exactly?

c.d.

imho at the very least... not the first time youve met. your example i would say you know her, just not well.probably be more accurate to say youve met her at this point.

[c.d.]

I see this phrase tossed around quite a bit especially as it applies to Kelly and Eddowes in reference to their relationship with their respective killers. But what exactly does it mean? It can certainly cover a wide gamut from intimate lover to someone they just met earlier in the day.

By way of example, we have a new person working the front desk in my apartment building. I introduced myself and learned her first name but other than that I know nothing else about her. I don't know where she lives, whether she is married and has children or where she worked before. Can I say I know her?

It just seems to me that if you want to use the phrase to put forth an argument or theory that you need to qualify exactly what you are implying. "Know?" Ok, but how exactly?

c.d.