What is a ripperologist?

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi Mike

Well said, Mike. Indeed, the goal of Ripperologists should be to always improve the knowledge in the field and to dispell old as well as new myths.

Best regards

Chris

[mklhawley]

Greetings,

The goal of scholarly peer review is to increase what is called 'reliable knowledge'. Even though ripperology does not conform to these particular set of rules, it does -as a body- attempt to increase reliable knowledge of the Whitechapel murders. When salty ripperologists correct my posts, based upon previously accepted 'reliable knowledge', I believe ripperology is being practised. It is also true that the accepted reliable knowledge must continue to be evaluated jsut as it does in any scholarly ____ology.

Tumblety may have participated in quackery, but I believe ripperology is on the right road.

Just my two cents.

Sincerely,
Mike

[Carol]

Carol, surely the Beatles version of Twist and Shout came out in 1963?

Hi Robert,
You could well be right. I have this memory of my class playing it over and over again at our last school Christmas party in 1962. We left school the following July. We had a party then, too. So maybe I'm remembering the wrong party!
Carol

[mariab]

Shoo. Tell me if you ever recall it (or end up playing it).

[Tom_Wescott]

I don't remember at the moment.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[mariab]

Au contraire, Maria.

Oh, OK, cuz I often get irritatingly chatty, esp. when chilling/avoiding work. :-)

To Tom:
Re. KISS: I once visited Peter Criss' (their ex-drummer's) homepage and it featured a really good acoustic guitar solo from one of his songs, so I'm sure they're good musicians. I'm just not crazy about glamour rock. And to be honest, their only album I've owned was Dynasty, with the disco hit (“I was made for loving you baby“, LOL), which was still HUGE in the '80s when I was a tween.
Don't think Pearl Jam is really a “nostalgia band“, they're still working and composing. They're getting out some more mellow songs, but they're great. (“Come back“, which is blues, features sophisticated accompaniment and Vedder sings it amazingly.) Most people would call KISS today a “nostalgia band“, but I don't believe in the concept. A band should play as long as they feel like playing.
Pearl Jam (like KISS) doesn't give a sh*t about charts and Grammys, and neither do I in my music selection. The music industry is merely commercial anyway, nothing to do with artistic quality.
By the by, Tom, can you say which guitar solo got stolen from The Doors–to KISS–then to Pearl Jam? I'd really like to know!

[Tom_Wescott]

Pearl Jam are much more sophisticated musicians than KISS, and they don't need big hair, high heels, and makeup for show.

Next year marks KISS' 40th year as a band. Only 10 years behind the Beatles. People assume KISS aren't sophisticated musicians because they play hard rock, but when you've played an instrument every day for 50 years, you learn a thing or two. People who know them say you'd be surprised how good they are. KISS and the Beatles are actually very similar, which might be why KISS is only behind the Beatles in most gold records and the Beatles are just behind KISS in marketing. Also, Beatles has Paul and John, KISS has Paul and Gene. Pearl Jam was a great band, but they had about 5 or 6 years on the charts before becoming a nostalgia band. KISS ruled the 70's as the top band, survived disco (and even had a disco hit) and new wave, took off their make-up and ruled the 80's, put the make-up back on in the 90's and had the highest grossing tour of the decade (Garth Brooks was second), got their first Grammy nomination, for as little as they cared, and are getting ready to come out with yet another album of new material.

And to date they've NEVER been nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The most influential rock band behind the Beatles, and they wear this dis as an honor, alongside the honor of having never been on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.

KISS' favorite band? The Beatles.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[ChrisGeorge]

LOL. Almost feeling honoured right now.


Apologies for not getting it the first time. You're probably considering me a Flippantologist due to my excessive posting. ;-)

Au contraire, Maria.

Chris

[mariab]

Hi Buffy, er, I mean Maria

LOL. Almost feeling honoured right now.

I mean by "Flippantologist" anyone who is flippant about the case. I mention no names.

Apologies for not getting it the first time. You're probably considering me a Flippantologist due to my excessive posting. ;-)

And KISStianity.

Re-LOL.

and KISS is way cooler than Pearl Jam. They ripped off a KISS solo for one of their big hits, but it's okay because KISS ripped it from the Doors.

Pearl Jam are much more sophisticated musicians than KISS, and they don't need big hair, high heels, and makeup for show.
For real?! As in guitar solo? Did Mike McCready steal it, and for which big hit? And from which Doors song?
The Doors I love, but The Beatles...nah.

And the thread's officially highjacked.

[Tom_Wescott]

Mixed it up. I guess the mag is called KISS, but people are using the terms KISSologist and KISStorian.

And KISStianity. I have a 'Merry KISSmas' shirt. Really churchy people seem to find it offensive. and KISS is way cooler than Pearl Jam. They ripped off a KISS solo for one of their big hits, but it's okay because KISS ripped it from the Doors.

As for the Beatles, there version of Twist and Shout sucked. Most of their covers did. When Paul screams I want to take the mop off his head and shove it in his mouth. Their later stuff was amazing though.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[ChrisGeorge]

Some people just like to be Flippantologists.

What's a Flippantologist? I'm most definitely a Buffologist, which by now constitutes a semi-official term for people analyzing Buffy, the vampire slayer, while a couple colleges in the US have already offered classes on this subject. No joke!

Hi Buffy, er, I mean Maria

I mean by "Flippantologist" anyone who is flippant about the case. I mention no names.

Thank you for the interesting information on Aeolian music, Maria. Fascinating.

All the best

Chris

[mariab]

Maria,
There is not a magazine called Kissology, but there is a series of DVD sets with this name.

Mixed it up. I guess the mag is called KISS, but people are using the terms KISSologist and KISStorian. Though personally I hardly care about KISS, huge Pearl Jam fan here.
Perhaps I should confess I own 3 volumes of Buffology essays, most of them very-very good. There has even been a couple of Buffology conferences in the US!

[Tom_Wescott]

Oh no Tom, I chose my words carefully.
I don't consider "theories and assumed facts" as research.
I was making a distinction between works which introduce valuable data and works which promote theories & suspects based more on what is not known rather than what is known.

Perhaps you could give me some examples from Ripper literature on this then? The approach you're describing certainly does not describe how I work. Facts are facts and little can be done to change that, short of an author altering them or misinterpreting them, but sooner or later he'll be called out. Theories and conclusions are what are drawn from these facts, and of course these will vary in quality and viability depending on who is interpreting the facts.

And yes, any good theory is the result of research.

Maria,

There is not a magazine called Kissology, but there is a series of DVD sets with this name.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[lynn cates]

Sorry, I'm not in the mode.

Hello Robert, Maria. Cute.

Thanks Maria for verifying my musings on the modes. Else, I would have to rewrite a couple of lectures and I'm FAR too lazy to do that.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

surge

Hello Don. Thanks for that. I was looking for such.

Was there a bit of a surge of interest during the time of the Trow book on Mann? I know I chatted with a student about that so it must have sparked some interest.

Cheers.
LC