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  • DaveMc
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Don't write it off so quickly, Simon.
    Somebody might get us on it.

    Reading the story of the funeral procession, London turned out in high numbers. They had found a love for this "unfortunate".

    Read under "Funeral of Catherine Eddowes" here.


    That blurry image does look similar to the scene of the woman sinner washing the feet of Jesus with her tears.
    The window or door would be at his back (our left) with the light coming in.
    That would be a fitting sentiment.

    That's as far as I would stretch it, though.
    I can't find anything to say it's not "corn flakes".

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Simon,

    Sorry, missed your comment..nope..not JC...This "image man" only has one eye and a moustache...

    best wishes

    Phil

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Adam,

    I will get flak like nothing else, but s**t happens...

    That won't stop me digging until I get to the bottom of things.

    The "man" is the person this thread is about... but if you wish to expand the idea of "Eddowes" or not.. look at the thread I responded to about the "tattoo" on the arm. Reason No.2 why I think this photo is "wrong".

    best wishes

    Phil
    Last edited by Phil Carter; 02-19-2010, 02:14 AM.

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  • Uncle Jack
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    Hello Adam,

    I would really like to know "who" the image is though. I have an idea. But I will wait with that. I could be barking up the wrong tree.
    When you say "who", do you mean Eddowes or our mystery "man"? I would like to hear you idea and look forward to reading it in future. I know that you will probably get a lot of disagreement from other posters on this issue but it would be great to hear your opinions.

    The best!

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Adam,

    Not sure the image of the man is a mortuary photo...could be, but his "eye" is open for one. The other has seemingly been painted over....
    I think we had better start looking at a possibility. A manipulated photo. I leave that for others to decide. But the fact is that "whatever" that photo is, it raises huge questions in my mind.

    I would really like to know "who" the image is though. I have an idea. But I will wait with that. I could be barking up the wrong tree.

    best wishes

    Phil

    PS...I have MANY huge questions over that photo, and this is one of them.
    Last edited by Phil Carter; 02-19-2010, 02:23 AM.

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  • Uncle Jack
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    Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
    Hello Adam,

    All I know is that it is an image of a man. And that image, by sheer definition, isn't meant to be in that "shell"... The "shell" carrying a dead woman.

    It CERTAINLY isnt a reflection off the side of the shell.

    best wishes

    Phil
    Hi Phil. If, and thats a big if, this is double exposure, it may explain why the "man" ended up in the photo. If the police had used the same camera to photograph several bodies, including Eddowes and said "man", this would explain the supposed crossover of images, if it was double exposure.

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  • Uncle Jack
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    The "second corpse" also looks like, coincidently, a Ripper victim with abdominal mutilation! Just a coincidence but shows that your eyes can create things randomly. I've highlighted what I think looks like the mutilations....

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Adam,

    I'm not sure. Perhaps. Perhaps not. All I know is that it is an image of a man. And that image, by sheer definition, isn't meant to be in that "shell"... The "shell" carrying a dead woman.

    It CERTAINLY isnt a reflection off the side of the shell.

    best wishes

    Phil

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  • Uncle Jack
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    Possible double exposure maybe?

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Adam,

    Only slightly wrong...

    It isn't a PERSON's BODY in the shell with "Eddowes"... its an IMAGE of a person. I think it is a photographic enhancement ONTO the negative.

    That's a guess, but according to a friend of mine, a bit of an expert in old photos, possible. (He actually said more..but I am being cautious)

    best wishes

    Phil

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  • Uncle Jack
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    Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
    Adam, David,

    THAT person is the image to the left of "Eddowes" in the "shell"...
    And it is one very large reason why I believe that photograph to have huge question marks over it.

    best wishes

    Phil
    Yes it may resemble a person but it isn't. It is just what our eyes create - forming something out of random shapes. I admit it looks like a corpse on it's own but when you look at it as part of the Eddowes photo, it is clear that it isn't. If that was a real person, then it would have to be a baby and it hasn't got the shape of a baby or child. If I read your comments wrong Phil and you are not claiming it is an extra person, then forget my observations!!

    The best Phil

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Adam, David,all,

    Thank you for enlarging it Adam.

    THAT person is the image to the left of "Eddowes" in the "shell"...
    And it is one very large reason why I believe that photograph to have huge question marks over it.

    All I have done is sharpen the shading and colour the background....
    To help enhance to picture.

    best wishes

    Phil
    Last edited by Phil Carter; 02-19-2010, 01:37 AM.

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  • DVV
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    Hi Adam,

    "Part of Eddowes mortuary photo" ?
    I suspect something like that, too...

    Thrilling thread!

    Hope Phil will provide the answer at the last chapter.

    Amitiés all,
    David

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi All,

    For anyone thinking it might be Jesus, I recommend this site—



    Regards,

    Simon

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  • Uncle Jack
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    Looking closer it does look like a mortuary photograph. I have enlarged the picture and highlighted a possible body shape.

    Where did you find this Phil?

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