A few off the top of my head
Nichols, Stride, and Kelly all purportedly looked about the same age (30). The exceptions (Chapman and Eddowes) were the ones where time was a serious factor. May or may not mean anything.
Nichols, Stride, and Eddowes were killed in front of large wooden gates. Kelly and Chapman had to walk through a passage to reach their location.
Nichols (hat), Chapman (letter), Stride (cachous), Eddowes (thimble). 4 of the 5 have personal belongings in or near their hand. Kelly's hand was shoved inside of her.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott
What remained consistent through the C5?
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Hi Trevor,Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View PostDoes this not suggest a traveller with a specific itinerary ?
Originally posted by perrymasonAt least 20 days of each month he was inactive
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Does this not suggest a traveller with a specific itinerary ?
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In all fairness, Mike, I don't think that 80% constitutes consistancy.
If that's one out of five, that means that the differences in the Stride and the Kelly crimes( compared to Nichols, Chapman Eddowes) disappear into the fold of "consistant".
We don't know if he was "rarely if ever" seen with a victim. What does that mean, anyway? Is it rarely or is it never or is it once ?
We can only speculate if he was visably threatening. We know that some victims were desperate. How threatening would he have to have been to keep them away from him?Last edited by mariag; 03-13-2008, 08:34 PM.
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Guest repliedHi Stan,
I hesitated putting down anything relating to age of victim, because if the Canonical Group is an accurate matching of victim with killer, then we have an age range of about 26 to 46. I do believe though without the youngest victim, we would have a man who consistently kills middle-aged Caucasian women, who were on the streets... most likely, plying their trade.
As far as the booze goes, it might have been significant if he only killed sober church women,... and the alcohol doesn't factor into at least two Ripper deaths, Liz's and Kate's. Maybe more, considering Annie's illness that night.
I did think of another one...an obvious one, 80 percent of the Ripper victims had abdominal mutilations.
Another thought.....I find it very interesting that it is predictable roughly when the kills will occur, using the "Kill by the 10th, or at Months end" point.
At least 20 days of each month he was inactive....the same 20 days, from the 10th to Months end, or so we believe.
Best regards Stan.Last edited by Guest; 03-13-2008, 04:29 PM.
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Hi Michael,
Maybe this is too basic but all the victims were poor adult white females, no older than middle age and who had a drinking problem.
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What remained consistent through the C5?
Hi all,
I was thinking that with the various differences in locale, types of wounds inflicted, manner of acquisition, and disparity in ages, its clear that if one man did kill all 5, he was if nothing else, flexible. His particular needs or wants seem to change from victim to victim based on the Canonical association, unless of course all he really wanted to do was just cut people open.
But there were things that remained consistent throughout.
-Always after midnight.
-On a weekend, or with a Holiday attached to one.
-Before the 10th of the month, or at the end of it.
-80 percent done in the East End, under Metropolitan Jurisdiction.
-Always cuts the throats.
-Chooses only full or part time prostitutes.
-Is not hampered by lack of direct light
-Was rarely if ever seen with a victim prior to the kill.
-Was never seen leaving the crime scene.
-Performed multiple style injuries, stabs, cuts, extractions..in minutes
-Never visibly left traces of blood while leaving the scene, 3 times with organs and other parts.
-Was apparently not visibly threatening, at least enough to address his later victims trust to go somewhere dark with him.
-80 percent of his kills were North of Whitechapel High Street/Aldgate.
My intention is not to list all I can think of, I really would like to hear from anyone who sees continuity in other areas or aspects, things I wouldn't think of necessarily.
Any input is appreciated,
Best regards.Tags: None
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