What remained consistent through the C5?

[sdreid]

The three frames:

Last day of month, AU 31, through SE 09 (AU 31 & SE 08) - two murders
Last day of month, SE 30, through OC 09 (SE 30) - two murders
Last day of month, OC 31, through NO 09 (NO 09) - one murder

[sdreid]

I'd say that Sept. 30 was what counted for the SE 30 through OC 09 frame - right on schedule if the "pattern" is really there.

Hi JS,

Of course you may be right, there may be no pattern to speak of, but I cant help thinking that no Ripper attributed killing or foiled attack from the 9th to the 30th might be important.

In 4 consecutive months, 3 have that "dates pattern", and the 4th, October, has no killings by him at all.

Again, it may mean nothing, but its consistent during the months he does kill, and leaves him dormant from at least from the 9th to the 30th in each of the 3 months.

Not that I would associate this killing with Jack, but a Torso from a woman killed earlier turns up October 2nd or 3rd. Who knows...maybe that was his October offering. But taking almost the exact same days off during kill months seems interesting to me.

My best regards.

[JSchmidt]

Though I'm sad to say it, much of what we have about a pattern is highly speculative. To establish a meaningful pattern we would need more occassions, especially failed attempts and all.
Maybe he did not manage to kill his potential victims during the three weeks but wasn't caught, maybe he had social obligations that kept him in et cetera.
There may not be a pattern and if there is it might be wholly random, dictated by singular happenings that do not reflect the occupation or social status of the murderer.

Hi Mike,If there is a pattern there, might it not rather be linked more strongly to his victims' lifestyles and occupations? Or to what the rest of the world was doing between killings?

Hi Sam,

Of course Sam, thats the way this has been looked at from the moment they thought they had a serial on their hands, that he goes out after midnight because thats when the street whores he chooses are gathered. The really poor ones. Makes sense.

I wonder though if his killing on only certain days of the month, and being quiet the balance of the month, is explained by that conjecture.

I would think that the desperately poor would not be able to stay off the streets very long after a Ripper Kill, they were forced to deal with the fear, surely some couldn't have survived without "working" after an early in the month month kill until they might feel safe going out again.

So why then would he have to wait from a kill before the 10th, to the 29th, 30th or 31st? Wouldn't some really desperate ones have to work regardless? Are'nt they his actual target supposedly? So why wait until months end....because by killing early in the month he virtually assures himself that only the weakest and poorest would be out for the next few weeks.

My best regards Sam.

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Mike,

I believe the consistency of Ripper kills, using the day of the month criteria and time of night, may be linked to his lifestyle or occupation

If there is a pattern there, might it not rather be linked more strongly to his victims' lifestyles and occupations? Or to what the rest of the world was doing between killings?

Hello,

It is a sad statement that when these murders were occurring the women most at risk, apparently very poor prostitutes, had to stay out to make money to eat or sleep indoors.

Stan touched on something earlier, and I admit I had hoped someone would, that what we all believe to be the criteria for Jack The Rippers selections, very poor full or part-time whores who are out on the streets after midnight, might just be a result of what he had to deal within the 10 or 11 days of each month that he went out to kill. What if he was a sailor for example, and only docking in the East End and on shore leave for those few days per month? If he was though, then there was no reason he couldn't or wouldn't kill during the evening before midnight. But he doesn't.

I believe the consistency of Ripper kills, using the day of the month criteria and time of night, may be linked to his lifestyle or occupation, like its not just a randomly occurring coincidence.

Best regards all.

[NOV9]

Paul,

I'm sorry, but I don't understand a lot of the questions you ask, so it's difficult for me to answer them.

NOV9,

Why do you have such a low opinion of Jack the Ripper?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Tom,

Whom do you know, that would have a high opinion of Jack the knife?

[mariag]

Let's not forget that there's a long history of prostitute murders in various cities in which the women did not go to extraordinary lenghts to protect themselves, even when it was known that a killer was preying on prostitutes.

Life and business must go on. And think how much more desperate a woman in Whitechapel in 1888 would be than her counterpart today.

[anna]

Hi Michael,after Annie,there really is no reason for me that they wouldn't have armed themselves. Seems strange the Vigilantee Committee or Rev Barnett & wife wouldn't have given them a piece of mirror or some other cheap item to look after themselves with,if they thought the women wouldn't get something for themselves. I agree that it is the last three that don't add up,they're not shrinking violets and I would think have had to deal with the occassional dissatisfied customer!

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Anna,

And why don't they bite Jack's hand when it goes over their mouth. They don't seem to be reacting in the right way.

We don't know whether they bit Jack's hand or not, or that he consistently clamped his hand over their mouths for that matter.

Hi all , another thing that remains consistent is that they don't arm themselves,despite all the warnings,even with a bit of broken mirror.Nothing.Surely even this basic bit of protection would be taken instead of a "drop to drink" given the atmosphere of the area,and the fact that they knew their profession was in the firing line.And why don't they bite Jack's hand when it goes over their mouth. They don't seem to be reacting in the right way.

That really is a key question Anna. Kate did have a table knife on her, but she also had almost everything under the sun on her so who knows if it was for protection.

I think the consistency would be that his victims apparently go down quietly, without much fuss.

Of course that need not apply in Marys case, but in the 4 others, there is that puzzling element....how did he keep Kate quiet for example, after the "spree" had begun? Wouldn't any have "spidey senses"..and balk at the last moment, or as you say, take a bite of his hand? Maybe they did. Who knows with all the blood at some sites, maybe some is his.

But he does, consistently, lure or follow street whore victims to their deaths... apparently quietly, during a madmans killing spree of street whores. Quite a talent.

Likely the most publicized search for a killer in history....everyone in the world knew about him while he was killing...so how does he get anyone alone after the first one or two? Really speaks to the desperate times I think.

Best regards Anna.

[anna]

Hi all , another thing that remains consistent is that they don't arm themselves,despite all the warnings,even with a bit of broken mirror.Nothing.Surely even this basic bit of protection would be taken instead of a "drop to drink" given the atmosphere of the area,and the fact that they knew their profession was in the firing line.And why don't they bite Jack's hand when it goes over their mouth. They don't seem to be reacting in the right way.

[sdreid]

Yes Sam, I have no argument with that.

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Stan,

Looking at it in 10 day time frames, there wasn't really an "October lull".

...which just goes to show that an interpretation can depend heavily on where, and how, one decides to "slice" the data.