Community/Respect/Standards of behavior

[Victoria]

So that guy who hangs around in the middle of my village all day out of his head on drugs and booze is due my respect is he? Even when he's also pushing booze onto kids of 12. Errr... not in my book he isn't... he's due a smack in the mouth.

I know his past too. Tough. He needs to sort it out and move on instead of cluttering up everyone's life with his constant scrounging.

I mean respect that he is a human being with feelings, we might not
like what he is doing, most especially when it affects others.
When I see people like that .. down and out on the street, I really feel
for them, what has led them to this state and the waste of life.
But saying that, if I saw them pushing drugs/booze onto kids .. it would
be a different matter.

He may not be able to "sort it out and move on" ..
when you are so down and out ..
a tough call from that place, but easy to say when we feel we are in a superior position.

Maybe I should have used the word compassion in this instance ..
"There but for the grace of God go I"
You never know .. what we are seeing with distaste, could have been our
own, in some other time.

[tji]

Hi
I have to say that I agree with JohnS - repect has to be earned, some people just don't deserve it.

Politensss is free and I will be as polite as I can to people but if you aren't respectful to me then expect the same back.

Tj

[Sox]

So that guy who hangs around in the middle of my village all day out of his head on drugs and booze is due my respect is he? Even when he's also pushing booze onto kids of 12. Errr... not in my book he isn't... he's due a smack in the mouth.

I know his past too. Tough. He needs to sort it out and move on instead of cluttering up everyone's life with his constant scrounging.

Hang on....just let me get your jackboots

[johns]

I feel we are all of the human race and more connected than we know,
no matter who anyone is or what they have done, they are entitled to respect.
Who knows what went before to get them in their predicament.

So that guy who hangs around in the middle of my village all day out of his head on drugs and booze is due my respect is he? Even when he's also pushing booze onto kids of 12. Errr... not in my book he isn't... he's due a smack in the mouth.

I know his past too. Tough. He needs to sort it out and move on instead of cluttering up everyone's life with his constant scrounging.

[protohistorian]

Hi Robert,

"I have never met any of you, but I promise to haunt you all with the Ying Tong Song in EVP when I'm dead."

Personally I can't wait that long, but in order that these unfortunate souls are fully aware of the terror to come, any chance you can post a link.

Rgds
John

You will be sadly disappointed when you get to me and see the line. Dave

[smezenen]

I don’t want to stir the pot here but this has been bugging me for a week now so I have to make this point concerning the DYF. Would anyone suggest that the Mona Lisa hanging in the Louvre is a fake because it has been repaired and restored over the years? How about the paintings on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, are they fake? They undergo annual work to preserve and restore them. And Is Donatello’s statue of David in the Bargello any less authentic because it has undergone recent restoration? I’m not saying that a photo from London Circa 1900 is comparable to these masterpieces in terms of Art but there can only be one standard. If I understand this right Philip did some work to the photo to repair damaged areas. Surely if we are judging the authenticity of any piece based on work that restores that piece to as near original condition as possible then we must apply the same standards to this photo that we apply to all mediums of art.

[Victoria]

I saw this thread the other day when it started with the
one post from Dave .. with these words included ..
"all worthy of the same respect"

Now there are pages and pages of it.
Anyway for what it is worth I totally agree.

Ally has said, "The premise that all are entitled to respect is
a false one."
and .. "The idea that civility counts more than honesty is one
I do not support."
Each to his own opinions of course .. that is part of respect
for each other.

I feel we are all of the human race and more connected than we know,
no matter who anyone is or what they have done, they are entitled to respect.
Who knows what went before to get them in their predicament.
We are responsible for our own actions only, we are not responsible for another,
nor the judge and executioner of another.
And don't they say .. teach by example?

And of course honesty is more important than civility .. but they can
go hand in hand, you can say anything you want or feel ..
It is just the manner in which you do it, that says such a lot.

[Robert]

Well you didn't see it. I did nothing of the kind.

[Tom_Wescott]

AP is a friend. Phil Hutchinson is an honest man.

I think Robert just called AP dishonest. Never thought I'd see that.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Robert]

Oh blimey yes, AP - furred-up arteries.

Also there were one or two 1888 policemen one wouldn't want to adopt - and end up skipping a beat.

[Cap'n Jack]

Nice one, Robert, the Goons, and the budgie flutter... I guess one should be careful with a cat as well, as it could induce a stroke.

[Robert]

My pleasure, John :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nebe1zuEtbc

BTW, I fully endorse the sentiment of dogs being buried in their masters' hearts, but folks shouldn't try it with their pet budgie as they may develop a flutter.

[John Savage]

Hi Robert,

"I have never met any of you, but I promise to haunt you all with the Ying Tong Song in EVP when I'm dead."

Personally I can't wait that long, but in order that these unfortunate souls are fully aware of the terror to come, any chance you can post a link.

Rgds
John

[Robert]

Since I was mentioned :

AP is a friend. Phil Hutchinson is an honest man.

I am a million light years away from being able to judge the photo. The weight of opinion is that it's genuine.

I have never met any of you, but I promise to haunt you all with the Ying Tong Song in EVP when I'm dead.

[DVV]

Who wants "Die wolfshaut" ?
Hans Lebert...

Amitiés,
David