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You can't rule out copycat killers either. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to cut a woman's throat and cut her open. -
See....this is the reason I bother with some spurious arguments here.....because there are some members here who understand the term "evidence".Originally posted by jonwilson View Post
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Jon,
Seriously???
I never ruled out anyone.
But all we have is the victims and that suggests a serial killer. If you want to argue further I really dont feel like doing so. I have argued about this for a good while, too long if you ask me.
Apperantly you dont know how rare you get a woman with a cut throat and abdominal mutilations. IF IT WAS MUTIPLE KILLERS then they were most likely working together for such a constent MO and a constent signiture.
believe what you want Jon.Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Mike,
What evidence is in what Jon just said???Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Hi Jonwilson,Originally posted by jonwilson View Post
What I can say is that copycat killers have been ruled out by the whole police - Jack being credited at least with 4 murders (Arnold).
Amitiés,
DavidComment
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Alice Mackenzies murder was either by Jack or done in the same manner that Jack killed the previous Fall...the killer mirrored acts.....thats a copycat crime.Originally posted by DVV View Post
And thats just one....as Jon suggests...wisely,...there may be more.
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There is no evidence in my opinion. Some might think how some of the girls were killed may suggest different killers, who knows. I'm just saying it is POSSIBLE they could have been different murderers. You can't say that you're 100 % it was the same killer because you weren't there and the murderer(s) would never caught. You may think that one killer is responsible for all of the murders, but you can't prove that it was the same person. That is all Mike is trying to say I think. I could be wrong. There is no evidence to suggest that it wasn't different murderers. I'm just keeping my mind open to other pausible theories that might have been.Originally posted by corey123 View PostComment
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Unsolved Crimes are just that....and all the alledged Ripper crimes and the other unfortunate crimes of the times are in that same state.
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Jon,
I do think(for now at least) 100% it was one man . However, you are right, it could have been many things, a "blood creature", the fenians, a socialist radical, a mob, a gang, a serial killer
, and many other possibilitys.
The woman do share a extreamily simial death, all the circumstances point to one killer, though you may agrue that the motives suggest otherwise. Per se, a organ theft,C2 and C4 and C5, and a domestic murder C3, and many other possibilties.
I see a violent death by serial murder in AT LEAST 4 out of those 5.
yours trulyLast edited by corey123; 01-02-2010, 10:44 PM.Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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I believe it was a lone killer myself as well Cory. That is just my personal opinion. I must admit than I never really challenged the one lone serial killer theory because it was told to us for the longest time now it was one serial killer and we all believed it and bought into it. The ripper experts tell you it was one lone killer, but the more books that come out about the ripper and the new theories that come out on him, one must realize that it is possible that some of these new theories hold some weight and are pausible given the fact that the killer(s) were never caught. We can't prove for a fact that it was the same killer. There is a good possibility it might have been multiple killers. I'm just keeping my mind open to other possible theories. There are some who claim that some of the c5 weren't even killed by the ripper. There are also more victims that might have been killed by the ripper, but don't credit him for those murders.Originally posted by corey123 View PostJon,
I do think(for now at least) 100% it was one man . However, you are right, it could have been many things, a "blood creature", the fenians, a socialist radical, a mob, a gang, a serial killer , and many other possibilitys.
The woman do share a extreamily simial death, all the circumstances point to one killer, though you may agrue that the motives suggest otherwise. Per se, a organ theft,C2 and C4 and C5, and a domestic murder C3, and many other possibilties.
I see a violent death by serial murder in AT LEAST 4 out of those 5.
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Hi Mike,Originally posted by perrymason View Post
even after her murder, attributed to a copycat killer by Phillips and to the Ripper by Bond, the whole police stuck to their beliefs that JtR had killed at least 4 women in 1888.
Amitiés,
DavidComment
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It was a serial killer
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Ok seriously it may have been multiple killers but I wouldnt say theres a good chance of it. If you look at the chance of it being a serial killer to it being multiple, the serial killer by far is higher.Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Those who theorize several Jacks within the canon (at least 3, I mean) should try their method investigating other cases as if they were still unsolved.
They would unearth several Kempers, I'm afraid. Many Bundys.
Peter Sutcliffe would be a village.
Amitiés all,
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Daivd,
I wounder how many Zodiacs there are???
Or how many East area rapist.
Many Sutcliffs!!!! The world would engulf in flames if it were so.
Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Depends on what Abberline had for lunch, Corey.Originally posted by corey123 View PostMany Sutcliffs!!!! The world would engulf in flames if it were so.
Amitiés,
DavidComment
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