Most ridiculous suspect

[Herlock Sholmes]

Agree with you Fishy, you were honest, others are just playing words, there is no such thing as dismissing Druitt out of hand, this phrase means NOTHING, so don't give it a lot of thought.

People dismiss Druitt because he is ridiculous as a suspect.

Abberline dismissed it, and stated that there is absolutely nothing to it.



The Baron

Of course you agree with him. You agree with him because it’s a point that I’ve made and history clearly shows us that your hobby is having snide digs at me, usually on the subject of Druitt. I re-posted exactly what I said. It’s there in black and white. If you think that the phrase ‘out of hand’ has no meaning I’d suggest that you read this, from a Dictionary of Phrases.

out of hand

2. Without due discussion or consideration.She's s o stubborn that she just rejected my suggestion ou t of hand.We'd like to try some alternative treatm ents. They're a bit unconventional, but please don 'tdismiss them out of hand.

It can’t be clearer.

Your opinion on Druitt isn’t required because it’s riddled with your own personal personal bias.

You favour Kosminski as a suspect. No problem; a fair suspect. But I cant recall Abberline even mentioning him as a suspect do you? A man absolutely central to the investigation into the ripper murders and yet not one word about a suspect that was apparently identified by a major witness in the crime after a police operation to take him to The Seaside Home. So why is it so important that Abberline didn’t think that Druitt was the ripper and yet it’s not important that he doesn’t even make any mention of the suspect that you favour?

[mpriestnall]

Erich von Daniken meets Jack the Ripper. I love it!

[FISHY1118]

Yes ,Thanks Jeff , Looks creepy indeed.

[JeffHamm]

If i knew how to do that i could outline a extra terrestrial figure, head and body, all the way down the left hand side . Wick can you draw it in if you see it ?

Do you mean the orange one on the left. There's also a downward looking face (blue) just to the lower right, and an arrow pointing to the blue one to make sure we don't miss it.

- Jeff

[erobitha]

So when the photograph was taken nobody bothered to look at the printed copy ? And Abberline etc fumbled around in the dark sifting through ashes etc with nobody discerning that they needed better light ?
And as Herlock says, why put the initials low down on the wall ? Maybrick didn't do that with the GSG , he took his time and wrote it in [ I believe ] a good schoolboy hand .
Regards Darryl

Why would they discern they needed more light? The objective was just to photograph the victim’s body and look at that. In the early years of forensic photography you want to believe they had a full 360 degree grasp of such details?

As being low down I don’t see that as an issue at all. He leaned over the bed and wrote where he was most comfortable. Also if the motive was to be a subtle clue then he perhaps thought lower would be better. Except for some it’s so subtle they can’t even see it.

P.S. Aberline was probably a good copper for the age but he was not Columbo. He was a man and was fallible just like so many of us are.

[Darryl Kenyon]

Darryl/Wickerman,

We aren't talking about 'scribble', though, are we? We're talking about something so very different from the GSG as to be quite incomparable. Just letters here and there, with two of them on a dark wall in a dark room (regardless of the time of day) with utter gore all around to take the constabulary eye off anything quite unexpected such as letters in blood.

But - hey - it's actually not open for debate! Countless posters testify that the letters 'F' and 'M' are clear on Kelly's wall and yet only I on this site believe that the scrapbook is Maybrick's so they aren't biased.

And neither am I - if they weren't there, I'd say so. If you know so little about the case that you've bought into the 'the initials aren't there' charade, that's your problem not mine.

Ike

It is not my problem Ike ,. My problem is with the evidence . I suggest that the police would have looked/searched that small room from top to bottom with a fine tooth comb for any form of clue, be it writing or whatever with the best means necessary., IE Lanterns etc , if it was gloomy or dark. Abberline etc at any time in that room would have been no more than a few feet away from the supposed initials. If the initials were drawn in blood and were disguised somewhat so they looked like bloodstains, couldn't they just actually be bloodstains .

Regards Darryl

[Darryl Kenyon]

Dried blood goes dark brown on wood. If you are not looking for it, why would you see it? They did not have the flash of light in the room at the time to see it clearly.

So when the photograph was taken nobody bothered to look at the printed copy ? And Abberline etc fumbled around in the dark sifting through ashes etc with nobody discerning that they needed better light ?
And as Herlock says, why put the initials low down on the wall ? Maybrick didn't do that with the GSG , he took his time and wrote it in [ I believe ] a good schoolboy hand .
Regards Darryl

[erobitha]

Darryl/Wickerman,

We aren't talking about 'scribble', though, are we? We're talking about something so very different from the GSG as to be quite incomparable. Just letters here and there, with two of them on a dark wall in a dark room (regardless of the time of day) with utter gore all around to take the constabulary eye off anything quite unexpected such as letters in blood.

But - hey - it's actually not open for debate! Countless posters testify that the letters 'F' and 'M' are clear on Kelly's wall and yet only I on this site believe that the scrapbook is Maybrick's so they aren't biased.

And neither am I - if they weren't there, I'd say so. If you know so little about the case that you've bought into the 'the initials aren't there' charade, that's your problem not mine.

Ike

I would suggest posters should consider how light plays a major part in any form of photography. The room was dark. That is not conjecture it is fact. There were three sources of natural light.

Two small windows and a door. Windows of which were caked in grime and had a small gap due to one being broken. We have photos of this. The other being via the main door. When the main door is opened it blocked half the light from the window and darkened the corner where the partition door was. The room was also in a courtyard. Natural light would have a hard time entering the room at the best of times.

Dried blood goes dark brown on wood. If you are not looking for it, why would you see it? They did not have the flash of light in the room at the time to see it clearly.

[FISHY1118]

lol i see it! although looks more like a skeletal zombie like figure with staring eyes

Yup thats its exactly

[Abby Normal]

If i knew how to do that i could outline a extra terrestrial figure, head and body, all the way down the left hand side . Wick can you draw it in if you see it ?

lol i see it! although looks more like a skeletal zombie like figure with staring eyes

[FISHY1118]

The reason 'countless posters' see those 'letters' is because those same 'countless posters' believe the theory.
I can make countless Casebook members see anything I want them to see, even you.

Look at what I've drawn below at left, then see the untouched image on the right.
If you look close enough you can see the numbers & the faces I've drawn.


I'd say the green markings are two ears with a couple of whiskers showing - its more like Felix the Cat!

I'll guarantee I have just made everyone who looked at this post see things they never knew were there, and what is worse. They will forever see those numbers & figures every time they look at the original photograph. Thats the way the mind works.

If i knew how to do that i could outline a extra terrestrial figure, head and body, all the way down the left hand side . Wick can you draw it in if you see it ?

[Wickerman]

But - hey - it's actually not open for debate! Countless posters testify that the letters 'F' and 'M' are clear on Kelly's wall and yet only I on this site believe that the scrapbook is Maybrick's so they aren't biased.

The reason 'countless posters' see those 'letters' is because those same 'countless posters' believe the theory.
I can make countless Casebook members see anything I want them to see, even you.

Look at what I've drawn below at left, then see the untouched image on the right.
If you look close enough you can see the numbers & the faces I've drawn.


I'd say the green markings are two ears with a couple of whiskers showing - its more like Felix the Cat!

I'll guarantee I have just made everyone who looked at this post see things they never knew were there, and what is worse. They will forever see those numbers & figures every time they look at the original photograph. Thats the way the mind works.

[FISHY1118]

Agree with you Fishy, you were honest, others are just playing words, there is no such thing as dismissing Druitt out of hand, this phrase means NOTHING, so don't give it a lot of thought.

People dismiss Druitt because he is ridiculous as a suspect.

Abberline dismissed it, and stated that there is absolutely nothing to it.



The Baron

Thanks Baron, i appreciate your response .

[The Baron]

it was honest , i cant help if i think thats how you ment it , im just being honest , so we disagree . people do it all the time .

Agree with you Fishy, you were honest, others are just playing words, there is no such thing as dismissing Druitt out of hand, this phrase means NOTHING, so don't give it a lot of thought.

People dismiss Druitt because he is ridiculous as a suspect.

Abberline dismissed it, and stated that there is absolutely nothing to it.



The Baron

[FISHY1118]

Just to repeat




In black and white and not a mirage. Impossible to misinterpret but you’ve managed to.

Why not , you manage to misinterpret my post all the time .