Note in Bible

[Peter F Young]

I was thinking more of the mortuary photos in the various books available.
Regards,
Peter.

[miss marple]

They all had eyes, noses and mouths, but apart from that they don't resemble each other.
Eddows had a low forehead, deepset eyes small chin.All had different hair.
Stride had beautiful garboesque bone structure with a wide mouth. Kelly apparently had a strong jawline. Chapman looked rather plain, from her living photo and small featured. Its difficult to get an accurate picture of Nichols.
As an artist I can't see any likeness.
Miss Marple

[Peter F Young]

Does anyone else think the facial similarities of most of the canonical victims is uncanny?

[Peter F Young]

Peter, Stephen Knight's book is full of errors and based on Joseph Gorman Sickert's alleged recollections and family history, which has been demolished as it does not tie in with the known facts.

Gull's alleged involvement in the series of murders is the stuff of ripper fantasy, See,
Alan Moore's From Hell!

Agree completely Mike, Rumbelow shot it down in flames too...

[Mike Covell]

Peter, Stephen Knight's book is full of errors and based on Joseph Gorman Sickert's alleged recollections and family history, which has been demolished as it does not tie in with the known facts.

Gull's alleged involvement in the series of murders is the stuff of ripper fantasy, See,
Alan Moore's From Hell!

[Peter F Young]

Could this mean physician as in Gull, someone who has already been discounted on account of the stroke he suffered some time earlier.

Not discounted by Stephen Knight in "The Final Solution"
ie Slight Paralysis, Mild Stroke etc...

[Peter F Young]

I first sent it to Roy Stockdill but it seems he was busy with the BBC and the 1911 census launch.
Regards,
Peter.

[pmerryman]

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How will this do?

Thanks for posting the scan. I'm sure there will be many people interested in your find.

[Suzi]

Just been doing that too Gareth- basically if a Dr was known as such in the C16th C17th he was known as a Doctor of Physicke (spelt various) meaning someone who dealt with treatments or what would in these days called a 'prescription'. A Dr of Psychic was- even going back to Chaucer a man who knew his trade- aka Physicke- if you Google it - it's quite fun!
Hmmmmmmm

[Sam Flynn]

"Physicke" is an old spelling of "physic", itself an archaic word meaning simply "medicine". Hence the "Chelsea Physicke Garden", where medicinal herbs were grown and studied by apothecaries, now open to the public under the more modern spelling of the "Chelsea Physic Garden". For info, the North Welsh word for "medicine" is still "ffisig".

[Peter F Young]

Not sure myself Mike, have been transcribing burial records for BerksFHS for a few years now, had to mess about with contrast settings & zoom to get this far as my mince pies are on the way out...

[Mike Covell]

Thanks for posting Peter, it is certainly very interesting and I am sure the other board members will have lots to say on it's contents and provenance.

The only word that I am stuck on his "physicke"

Could this mean physician as in Gull, someone who has already been discounted on account of the stroke he suffered some time earlier.

Could it mean Psychic as in Robert Lees?

[Peter F Young]

Thanks Chris, have all that & much more, with a fellow genealogist policeman cousin in Ipswich, we have been collaborating on our tree for a good few years........Cheers, Peter.

[Peter F Young]

This does sound very interesting, and a scan would be great.

How will this do?

[Chris Scott]

Sarah Ixer and William Young

Marriage 1868 Quarter 4
Sarah Ixer 1868 Marylebone (1837-1901) London, Middlesex
William Young 1868 Marylebone (1837-1901) London, Middlesex

Sarah was the daughter of George Ixer, a millwright, and his wife Anne, both from Suffolk. Sarah is listed as born in Old Kent Road, Stepney
In 1851 she is listed as 10 or 11 years old (entry is ambiguous), placing her birth about 1840.
Her birth was registered in the last quarter of 1840 in Newington

The couple are listed in 1881 as follows:
19 Dyott Street, St Giles, London
Head: William Young aged 38 born Ipswich - Police constable
Wife: Sarah Young aged 38 born Middlesex
Children:
William H aged 9
Genry E aged 6
Ada C aged 4
Frank aged 1
All born in Middlesex

and in 1891:
39 Burton Crescent, St Pancras, London
Head: William Young aged 48 born Ipswich - Police constable
Wife: Sarah Young aged 50 born Middlesex
Children:
William H aged 19 - Plastc arts restorer
Henry E aged 16 - Baker
Ada C aged 14
Frank aged 11
Ellen aged 7
All born in Middlesex

William's death:
Name: William Young
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 59
District: Ipswich
County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 557

In the 1901 census William is listed as a boarder with George and Mary Giles at Whitton Street, Whitton, Suffolk.
William Young aged 58 (Married) born Claydon, Suffolk - Retired policeman
In 1901 Sarah is listed as follows:
District St Pancras Workhouse
Sarah Young (Widow) aged 60 born Old Kent Road - Dressmaker