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  • caz
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    I think 100% wrong would have done it, GUT.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by albie View Post
    Not that large. It was a shawl with human blood on it said to belong to a ripper victim.

    What are the chances?
    Said ,supposedly by DNA which was proven to be 110% wrong

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by albie View Post
    Russel Edwards showed it to shawl experts who did not jump up and say "That's a tea cosy!"
    It might be what's called a table runner.

    I've seen it myself, by the way.

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  • albie
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    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    As has been pointed out by Miss Marple, it's not even certain that it's a shawl.
    Russel Edwards showed it to shawl experts who did not jump up and say "That's a tea cosy!"

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  • Sam Flynn
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    As has been pointed out by Miss Marple, it's not even certain that it's a shawl.

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  • albie
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    Originally posted by Harry D View Post
    It's mitochondrial DNA, which is less precise, and shared with a large population group.
    Not that large. It was a shawl with human blood on it said to belong to a ripper victim.

    What are the chances?

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  • miss marple
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    its nor even a shawl but a table runner.

    miss marple

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  • Harry D
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    Originally posted by albie View Post
    No evidence but the dna match to her living descendant. I would call that pretty good evidence. Maybe a cop stole it before anyone could log her items.
    It's mitochondrial DNA, which is less precise, and shared with a large population group.

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  • albie
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Albie, she had just returned from hop picking and pawned everything but the kitchen sink. I am sure that the shawl would have gone in the pawn shop if it had been hers. Russell said that Kozminski had given it to her. I think if he had, he would have took it back as it would have been evidence against him.

    There is no evidence at all that it belonged to her unfortunately.
    Pat.
    No evidence but the dna match to her living descendant. I would call that pretty good evidence. Maybe a cop stole it before anyone could log her items.

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  • Paddy
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    Russell Edwards, author of the above mentioned book, says the ripper left the shawl there as a clue. It certainly seems a nice garment for a prostitute to be wearing.
    Albie, she had just returned from hop picking and pawned everything but the kitchen sink. I am sure that the shawl would have gone in the pawn shop if it had been hers. Russell said that Kozminski had given it to her. I think if he had, he would have took it back as it would have been evidence against him.

    There is no evidence at all that it belonged to her unfortunately.
    Pat.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
    You party-crasher you. I have Nicholsī left boot, two pairs of shiny gloves belonging to Kelly and Annie Chapmans Dior dress, and nobody is going to tell me I canīt cash in on them!
    Hmmm... that's quite a collection of trophies you've got there, Fish. What were you doing during the latter quarter of 1888?

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  • Batman
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    Donald Rumbelow has you all beat.

    He has the rippers' knife.

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  • MrBarnett
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
    You party-crasher you. I have Nicholsī left boot, two pairs of shiny gloves belonging to Kelly and Annie Chapmans Dior dress, and nobody is going to tell me I canīt cash in on them!
    And I bet Ed's got a photo of Charlie wearing them.

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  • Fisherman
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    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    There's no mention of it in the detailed contemporary inventory of Eddowes' possessions, nor was it mentioned by anyone who attended the murder scene. On that basis, it neither belonged to Eddowes nor was it left behind by any "woo-woo symbolic" killer.
    You party-crasher you. I have Nicholsī left boot, two pairs of shiny gloves belonging to Kelly and Annie Chapmans Dior dress, and nobody is going to tell me I canīt cash in on them!

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by albie View Post
    I read NAMIMG JACK THE RIPPER the other day. Now I've heard the dna evidence for Kosminski has been called into question. But what of the evidence for the shawl belonging to Eddowes?

    I see no mention of that being debunked.
    There's no mention of it in the detailed contemporary inventory of Eddowes' possessions, nor was it mentioned by anyone who attended the murder scene. On that basis, it neither belonged to Eddowes nor was it left behind by any "woo-woo symbolic" killer.

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