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    Do you believe that the true identity of Jack the Ripper and/or the perpetrators of the Whitechapel Murders will be satisfactorily proved (whatever that means) and that the Whitechapel Murder case will be solved?
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Sleuth1888 View Post
    Do you believe that the true identity of Jack the Ripper and/or the perpetrators of the Whitechapel Murders will be satisfactorily proved (whatever that means) and that the Whitechapel Murder case will be solved?
    The only chance would be some lost papers coming to light.

    Something like (but not necessarily) Mcnaghtens notes on the “Private Information” why Druitt’s family thought he was the ripper, and it contained verifiable facts, OR notes on the seaside ID. That sort of thing.

    Even then I expect there’d be a lot of debate over the genuiness of whatever came to light, (as there should be in my opinion).

    Even a confession wouldn’t get any sort of general acceptance now.
    G U T

    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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    • #3
      probably not. I think it would take someone finding an old trunk in an attic somewhere with a confession and or evidence accompanying it.
      "Is all that we see or seem
      but a dream within a dream?"

      -Edgar Allan Poe


      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

      -Frederick G. Abberline

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      • #4
        Hey, what if at some point some old building was being repaired, and an old book kind of like a diary was found? Yeah? You know, maybe under the floorboards? What if in this old book was written in someone's handwriting a total confession of the Ripper murders? This would be it, wouldn't it? I think this is the kind of thing we should be looking for. Yeah? That would prove it, no problem-o. Like, everyone would believe it, yeah?

        Graham
        We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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        • #5
          Basically ditto to all above.

          Even if some important new find came to light it would have to be conclusive. Like a series of letters between 2 senior officers spilling the beans. Then again, almost anything would be disputed. I really cant see this ever being solved. Can anyone think of an item of evidence that couldnt be disputed?
          Regards

          Herlock






          "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact!"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
            probably not. I think it would take someone finding an old trunk in an attic somewhere with a confession and or evidence accompanying it.
            You already have a diary Abby. There’s just no pleasing some
            Regards

            Herlock






            "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact!"

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            • #7
              I’ve no doubt that my own suspect was the killer! Well, only a little doubt. Almost insignificant doubt. A smallish doubt.

              Whether I can prove it is another matter.

              Absolute proof these days would, imho, consist of finding the victims’ missing organs. And then only if it could be shown who stored them originally.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kattrup View Post
                I’ve no doubt that my own suspect was the killer! Well, only a little doubt. Almost insignificant doubt. A smallish doubt.

                Whether I can prove it is another matter.

                Absolute proof these days would, imho, consist of finding the victims’ missing organs. And then only if it could be shown who stored them originally.
                Which of course would be an entirely different issue, proving who stored them i mean.

                Have you named your suspect, have i missed it?


                Steve

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Elamarna View Post

                  Have you named your suspect, have i missed it?


                  Steve
                  Don’t think I have, I’ve yet to get really dirty researching him. A few minor pieces still missing, such as showing he was in London, or the UK, or Europe, in 1888.

                  His name was Christian Hansen, an exceedingly common Danish name. What makes him interesting? Before committing suicide in 1904 he confessed to some coworkers that some years previously he murdered a woman by cutting her throat.
                  Also he was a ship’s cattle driver. As you’ll recall, one of the earliest theories about the ripper was precisely that (Larkin).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kattrup View Post
                    Don’t think I have, I’ve yet to get really dirty researching him. A few minor pieces still missing, such as showing he was in London, or the UK, or Europe, in 1888.

                    His name was Christian Hansen, an exceedingly common Danish name. What makes him interesting? Before committing suicide in 1904 he confessed to some coworkers that some years previously he murdered a woman by cutting her throat.
                    Also he was a ship’s cattle driver. As you’ll recall, one of the earliest theories about the ripper was precisely that (Larkin).
                    Interesting, best of luck with the research.


                    Steve

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                      You already have a diary Abby. There’s just no pleasing some
                      I meant a real one lol
                      "Is all that we see or seem
                      but a dream within a dream?"

                      -Edgar Allan Poe


                      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                      -Frederick G. Abberline

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kattrup View Post
                        Don’t think I have, I’ve yet to get really dirty researching him. A few minor pieces still missing, such as showing he was in London, or the UK, or Europe, in 1888.

                        His name was Christian Hansen, an exceedingly common Danish name. What makes him interesting? Before committing suicide in 1904 he confessed to some coworkers that some years previously he murdered a woman by cutting her throat.
                        Also he was a ship’s cattle driver. As you’ll recall, one of the earliest theories about the ripper was precisely that (Larkin).
                        Interesting Kattrup. What first led you to this suspect?

                        Good luck with your research and looking forward to hearing more!
                        "Is all that we see or seem
                        but a dream within a dream?"

                        -Edgar Allan Poe


                        "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                        quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                        -Frederick G. Abberline

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kattrup View Post
                          Don’t think I have, I’ve yet to get really dirty researching him. A few minor pieces still missing, such as showing he was in London, or the UK, or Europe, in 1888.

                          His name was Christian Hansen, an exceedingly common Danish name. What makes him interesting? Before committing suicide in 1904 he confessed to some coworkers that some years previously he murdered a woman by cutting her throat.
                          Also he was a ship’s cattle driver. As you’ll recall, one of the earliest theories about the ripper was precisely that (Larkin).
                          The ripper murdered women,so that eliminates him?

                          -
                          Clearly the first human laws (way older and already established) spawned organized religion's morality - from which it's writers only copied/stole,ex. you cannot kill,rob,steal (forced, otherwise people run back to the hills,no towns).
                          M. Pacana

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                            Interesting, best of luck with the research.


                            Steve
                            I have a feeling, Steve, that the reference "Larkin" may lead us to what kind of suspect our learned Danish friend has in mind. Plus I have another feeling that it is a tad ironic that I am the one pointing it out.

                            There is a very, very, very, very small chance that I am wrong on it, though.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                              Interesting Kattrup. What first led you to this suspect?
                              Researching murders of women with cut throats. There wern’ That many in Denmark.

                              When I later was shifting through Danish Foreign Mimistry correspondence in the Danish national archives, looking for Charles Grande, one of the case files concerned one of those unsolved murders. An inquiry into the circumstances of this guy’s suicide.

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