Nathan Shine

[Frank]

Hello,

I moved this link

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com.../0108page.html

from the folk legend thread hoping that somebody does know wheather this could be true or not.

Best regards,
Frank

[lynn cates]

dark

Hello Frank. An interesting story indeed.

Were there any further details which account for Mr. Shine's being able to see Elizabeth's body given the darkness of the yard?

The best.
LC

[Tom_Wescott]

Hello all, the story is a modern fabrication. The writer even uses verbiage found in Swanson's summary, giving away the game that this is not a legitimate story from 1888. People like to have their fun.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[The Grave Maurice]

Besides that, according to the article, Elizabeth moved to London when she was 12 or 13 years old. Doesn't say much for the accuracy of the info.

[Supe]

Frank,

Nathan Shine's story was well discussed several years ago and the outcome was a majority thought the tale was just so much "moon-shine." As might be expected, AP Wolf was rather vigorous in his defense of Nathan and as I recall AP and Dan Norder had some heated exchanges on the topic.

Don.

[The Good Michael]

A couple of interesting things is the idea that he was coming from a worker's club, and according to his family tree, he was a cat's meat seller as was his mother. The name 'Shine' is, seemingly a Jewish one which might make a Berner Street connection possible, though all is conjecture at this point, and as he never made a police statement, will undoubtedly always be.

Cheers,

Mike