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Old 02-21-2010, 06:54 AM
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It's clearly a two-dimensional image. It's certainly not a man.

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Hello Corey,

If you read my posting, I clearly said the man WAS visible in the negative...actually.

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Edit from previous posting.. The image when shown in negative, as shown on the "Eddowes photo" thread, comes out, just as the image of Eddowes does. That indicates a second photographic image on the plate.
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Hi Phil,


Sorry. I got your meaning wrong. When you said it "Comes out" I thought you ment it wasn't there. My apologies.
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Hello Phil,

Interesting thread. Although I do not see what you are seeing, this thread has helped me make more of the photo.

I see the "Man" you are pointing out but cannot call it a man or a women, a person or a reflection, a blemish or a scratch. The photo is truly too degraded to make anything of it.

I also can not tell if she is clothed or not.

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"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

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Hello Corey,

No problem

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I see the "Man" you are pointing out but cannot call it a man or a woman,
Hello Corey,

Most women do not have moustaches.

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Phil,

I don't know how many times I have to say it. I see NO man nor woman, besides the deceased, in that photo. I see what appears to be a smudge of what looks like a person. That is as descriptive as I can get, a person.

If you could point out some details, maybe there is something.

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Hello Corey,

Just for you, I have reposted and enhanced the photos, side by side. You may have a small screen, so this may be helpful. The details are as clear as daylight. Moustache and all. The image on the "shell" is a man. It isn't a woman.

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HI Phil,

Thank you. I do have a large compute screen. I ment pointing out the details in the shell photo.

Here is what I see.
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Here is another example . This time in black and white. I have shaded the photo on the right a little darker, with less mid-tone.
Strikingly familiar perhaps?

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