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Old 09-19-2008, 02:11 PM
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Default The Madness of Joseph Fleming

I've been reading briefly that he was confined and died in an asylum or mental hospital but can anyone enlighten on his mental state and why he was confined to a hospital? It would be interestring to see if he was a violent maniac or something less so. And do we know the date when he was admitted to the asylum?

Alos, a little off topic, do we know when Fleming and MJK actually parted and broke up, so to speak??

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Hi Adam!

Of Fleming it was said that he suffered from mania and delusions of persecution, and that he was abusive languagewise.

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Thanks very much friend, much appriciated.

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Hi Adam,
an interesting detail is that Fleming's mother said something like: "madness has been in the family for 160 years".

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Hi Adam,
an interesting detail is that Fleming's mother said something like: "madness has been in the family for 160 years".

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she must have been very old
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Don't laugh, Joel.
She's still alive and ready to post.
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Default 2 "writos"...?

Good evening all,
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On his admission to the City of London Asylum at Stone, Fleming/Evans was described as 6'7.
This, no doubt, was a typo (or rather a "writo", as put by Ben).
And as Sam Flynn had pointed out: "5 and 6 are easily confused by the slip of a smudgy pen."

Now, the same records mention that Henrietta, Jo's mother, has revealed that "insanity has been in the family for 160 years".
The number 160 looks strange in such circumstances.
And though I haven't seen the original documents, I bet that the same "smudgy pen" has written 6'7 for 5'7, and 160 for 150.
So we have a man of average height, and madness for one century and half.
And nothing to baulk at...

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An excellent observation, David, and one that lends additional support to the theory that the registrar was writing fives that looked like sixes. 160 years is an oddly precise estimate of the number of years in which mental illness afflicted the family and the height of 6'7 is just, well, odd. As you sensible note, a dodgy looking number "5" on the part of the registray may resolve matters here.

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Either that or he could have been a basketball player...
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Default Confusion?

Surely the person we should be looking at is 'Flemming' not 'Fleming'?
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