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My co-worker, who is a big Trump supporter, was unaware that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. When I pointed that out to him his response was that that was simply my opinion. I had to explain to him that was the conclusion of the Federal Election Commission in their report to Congress. While still unconvinced he responded that it was because so many illegal immigrants voted for Clinton. When I asked for evidence to support his allegation he could not provide it. Apparently almost half of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote. So much for an informed electorate.

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But you get idiots on both sides of any political argument.

And to be honest I've heard Democrats who say because she won the popular vote she should be president, clearly displaying a poorer understanding of the US election system than I (a dumb Aussie) have.
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The past week in Washington was remarkable, with Sean Spicer resigning in response to the hiring of a new communication s director, chief of staff Priebus being boosted out the door, Trump declaring trans-gender military volunteers can no longer serve "in any capacity", and Senator John McCain ( recently diagnosed with brain cancer) returning to cast "the right vote" against the repeal and replace of the Affordable Health Care Act.

He understands that the Senate's alternate bill was not drafted and approved in open debate, as is usual.

Now I read that President Trump has been objecting via tweets to the rules of the Senate.
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But you get idiots on both sides of any political argument.

And to be honest I've heard Democrats who say because she won the popular vote she should be president, clearly displaying a poorer understanding of the US election system than I (a dumb Aussie) have.
I've heard that argument too but I thought they were pointing out that the Electoral College does not reflect the will of the voting public.
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Nothing truly, completely does IMO. This is where the Aussies got it right: Compulsory voting with the final option of "None of the above" if you really can't be arsed about who runs the country.
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Nothing truly, completely does IMO. This is where the Aussies got it right: Compulsory voting with the final option of "None of the above" if you really can't be arsed about who runs the country.
Like it makes a difference?

What we call "democracy" is nothing but a sideshow. It just creates the false impression of agency. Clinton or Trump... It doesn't make a difference who's voted into office, because you can be sure as heck they never would've been allowed to step one foot into the White House without the ruling elite's blessing.
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Like it makes a difference?

What we call "democracy" is nothing but a sideshow. It just creates the false impression of agency. Clinton or Trump... It doesn't make a difference who's voted into office, because you can be sure as heck they never would've been allowed to step one foot into the White House without the ruling elite's blessing.
Hi, Harry D.,

I'm dubious of the "ruling elite" concept, but I do believe it is important to vote as if it does make a difference. I think the Republicans wanted Jeb Bush as their candidate, and settled for Donald Trump with the idea that either he'd change if elected, or would not win at all

Now we do have a ruler from the "elite", if you consider money a qualification.
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Hi, Harry D.,

I'm dubious of the "ruling elite" concept, but I do believe it is important to vote as if it does make a difference. I think the Republicans wanted Jeb Bush as their candidate, and settled for Donald Trump with the idea that either he'd change if elected, or would not win at all

Now we do have a ruler from the "elite", if you consider money a qualification.
It's the plutocrats and oligarchs who run the world. It doesn't matter which puppet you vote for.
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It's the plutocrats and oligarchs who run the world. It doesn't matter which puppet you vote for.
Some puppets suit the oligarchs' purposes better than others. "Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad"... so, if you're a nutjob to begin with, it makes the gods' jobs much easier.
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Scarramuchi has gone.

Trump is the gift that just keeps on giving.
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