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Old 04-08-2017, 03:55 AM
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Of the many thing Trump has done here, he certainly hasn't settled a conflict.
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I wouldn't be too concerned about Putin either. The Russian economy is not diversified like most western nations, it is largely supported by oil, and the US could cripple that source of income in a matter of days if not hours.
So he can huff and puff all he likes, he will not hit anyone who has the ability to hit back.
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One thing that has just occurred to me is to wonder about the timing-- Trump was hosting the Chinese leader Xi Jianping at his Flordia resort while the attack took place, and only told him about if after they'd finished their steaks. Some sort of object lesson, perhaps?

Worldwide reaction has been mostly supportive, but domestic critics have pointed out a certain hypocrisy in being moved to action by suffering Syrian children, yet banning other Syrian children and their families from coming to our country as refugees.

I have also read that Trump lacks the support staff he'll need in Defense areas due to his slowness in filling empty government posts. "Donald the Unready" (to borrow from English history), perhaps?
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"Donald the Unready" (to borrow from English history), perhaps?
In the sense that the epithet "unready" came from a word that meant "ill-advised" at the time of Ethelred, you're possibly right on two counts there, sir!
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One thing that has just occurred to me is to wonder about the timing-- Trump was hosting the Chinese leader Xi Jianping at his Flordia resort while the attack took place, and only told him about if after they'd finished their steaks. Some sort of object lesson, perhaps?
It was certainly fortuitous, and it just might nudge China to contain that presumptuous little Korean upstart of theirs...
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In the sense that the epithet "unready" came from a word that meant "ill-advised" at the time of Ethelred, you're possibly right on two counts there, sir!
I'm not a "sir," but appreciate the response, Sam!

Bannon losing his spot on the National Security Committee has been the best news I've heard from the White House in a long time. He has always reminded me of the king's counselor "Wormtongue" in Tolkien's books.
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I'm not a "sir," but appreciate the response
Thanks for clearing that up
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To give credit where credit is due, Trump finally said and did something I agree with.
That was Obama's main failing in my opinion, he was too patient, to lenient.
Except that Obama went to Congress to ask for permission to attack Syria and was denied by the same group of idiots who now applaud the fact that Trump ignored the constitution and attacked (attacking a county is, by definition, a declaration of war) without congressional approval. Right after telling the world that we should get used to Assad being in charge. Assad isn't exactly entrenched, his forces are spread thin and has little offensive capabilities. He needs the Russians to prop him up.

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When the Assad's of this world do what he did, the most effective response is to hit him hard without warning.
None of this increased sanctions, no calling meetings of security councils, no consensus of countries condemning him - just hit him hard.
That wasn't hard. They called Putin, Putin called Assad, here comes something that makes me look tough, get out of the way. Obama had a fairly harsh plan, but now that the Russians are hanging out at all the nice places to attack you don't have the luxury of bombing the crap out of Assad.

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A hard response is just what this so-called President needed to begin to gain some credit at home.
Which is why he jumped at the chance to attack before any intelligence could tell him that it just might not have been Assad using those chemical weapons. Isis has been manufacturing chemical weapons, it's possible a hit from the Syrian Air Force nailed one. Or used one to see if they could cause problems.

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I did think it somewhat ironic that Trump should cry crocodile tears over the deaths of Syrian children, the same children he banned from entering the US.
Or they could show him pictures of starving kids in Africa, or the hungry kids in his own country and see if his heart melts then.
I fear that he got a massive hard-on from his attack, loved the media coverage talking about how 'tough' he was, and now will push other crisis situations to the brink without any sort of thought process regarding true consequence.

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I can't imagine why the American voters are so silent about Trump raping the health care system for money so he can give huge tax breaks to his millionaire buddies, not to mention lining his own pockets to the tune of billions of dollars in tax savings.

Hello America .....are you all asleep?
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