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View Poll Results: Is this book worth publishing?
Yes, definitely! 19 90.48%
Absolutely not! 1 4.76%
Only as a short-print-run local history book (Southwark). 1 4.76%
Only as a webpage on a free site and on casebook. 0 0%
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:27 PM
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I think it is best to stick to just one name/alias, my pick would be George Chapman.

About a JtR reference in the title or subtitle, well, puff is part of the trade!

What about "In The Shadows Of Jack The Ripper: George Chapman, Southwark Poisoner"?
Good one, Bolo !
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:47 PM
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So maybe you could 'turn' the title ? 'The Southwark Poisoner -the Jack the Ripper Suspect Who Never Was' sort of thing..

The Southwark Poisoner -Was He Jack The Ripper ?
(at least it doesn't let them down before they start reading !)

Maybe you don't need his name in the title. People who know about Chapman will understand 'The Southwark Poisoner', and if they don't know him, the name will mean nothing.
This is all good thinking, thank you!

I love "The Southwark Poisoner -Was He Jack The Ripper?" except for one tiny thing: 95% of the book tells the story of the poisonings, and only 5% -- the final chapter - - weighs up whether he was the Ripper or not. As I am always striving never to mislead or disappoint, in my books or in my titles, I am a bit worried that people might expect the whole book to be an evaluation of whether he was the Ripper or not and be irritated by having to wade through 95% of the book before getting to the bit they want, then being disappointed that it's only a small proportion of the book.

Boris: "In The Shadows Of Jack The Ripper". That sounds nice, but what does in the shadows mean?

I agree I need JtR in the title, just need to find a way of doing it without misleading or disappointing anyone.

I/we will have to brainstorm this a bit more.

Thanks, and keep the ideas coming!
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:53 PM
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Helena,

As you know I'm supportive of your efforts but I must say that I think this would work better as a Hastings and area local book/booklet which I believe is your business. I don't imagine there are many people in Southwark who are remotely interested in Local History. The only way a mainstream publisher would want it would be if it were a JTR 'suspect' book and it seems that your heart would not be into creating such a thing. However, a carefully researched Local History book about an infamous character who lived where you live could be a steady seller in that area and also be a desirable internet purchase for our companions here
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Hi Stephen and thank you so much for contributing to my thread!

this would work better as a Hastings and area local book/booklet which I believe is your business.


Well, the book DID start out as a local history booklet.

I don't imagine there are many people in Southwark who are remotely interested in Local History.


I'm intrigued to know why you think Southwark people won't be remotely interested in murders that took place in Southwark, but Hastings people will be interested although he didn't kill anyone here.

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That is an incredibly lofty and sweeping remark. How do you know ?

Maybe people would be more interested in local history if they had more information about it, easily available ?

As for 'the Southwark Poisoner' -I've never taken Chapman seriously as a Ripper suspect and I'm interested in the Whitechapel Murders as an 'entry point' to social history of the late 19th Century ; Judging by all the participants and readers of Casebook, I am far from unique (that's not locally, that's across the World).

I think that this book would appeal to the legions of people like me.

Obviously we need to be able to come across/find the book on the net with the name 'Jack the Ripper' -but we don't need a suspect based book, to be interested.
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I agree I need JtR in the title, just need to find a way of doing it without misleading or disappointing anyone.
As I said before.......

'DID JACK THE RIPPER LIVE IN HASTINGS?'

A question there, not a statement
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Boris: "In The Shadows Of Jack The Ripper". That sounds nice, but what does in the shadows mean?
It is meant as a reference to the connection between the JtR and Chapman cases. Chapman was not a contemporary suspect but there still is Abberline's interest in him, that is why I think it is valid to put the JtR name in the title of a book on him.
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there still is Abberline's interest in him, that is why I think it is valid to put the JtR name in the title of a book on him.
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I agree with you bolo. It's not dishonest, and it will draw in readers who are not all 'suspect' orientated.
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Rubyretro: That is an incredibly lofty and sweeping remark. How do you know ?

I think he is right. I lived in Southwark for 15 years and never took any interest in local history. Came to Hastings and hey presto, wrote four local history books!

Must be something in the water!

I think that this book would appeal to the legions of people like me.


Oh don't get me too excited!
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As I said before.......

'DID JACK THE RIPPER LIVE IN HASTINGS?'

A question there, not a statement
When I started writing this, that is almost exactly what I was going to call the book! "The Demon Barber of George Street: Did Jack the Ripper live in Hastings?" The reason I was happy with that was that it was going to be a much shorter book, and so the discussion of whether he was or was not the Ripper took up a bigger proportion of the book, say 30% instead of 5%.

But when I decided to publish nationally, the title won't do.

Maybe there is some way of incorporating this into the national book?
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