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She simply held on to them. As I've mentioned a thousand times, it's common knowledge now people are found dead still clutching objects in their hands, even while having gone through extremely violent situations.
It's a red herring and this is the last time I'm wasting bandwidth on the stupid cashoo.
What you're referring, in respect of people holding on to things, is as a consequence of cadavaric spasm, but that only happens after your dead. However, Stride seemed very much alive during the assault witnessed by Schwartz so that argument doesn't apply.

And, as I've noted before, it's not realistic to argue the cachous would have survived the assault described by Schwartz, or Stride being subsequently dragged into the Yard by BS man, because there's no way she was going to enter that Pitch black abyss with someone who'd just assaulted her. Not with the Ripper scare in full swing.

Let's face it, the only way you can make Schwartz's evidence make sense is by resorting to extreme theories.
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"Let's face it, the only way you can make Schwartz's evidence make sense is by resorting to extreme theories."

Hello John,

I am going to disagree. I think it makes perfect sense if he was not describing a murder but simply a little street hassle.

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"Let's face it, the only way you can make Schwartz's evidence make sense is by resorting to extreme theories."

Hello John,

I am going to disagree. I think it makes perfect sense if he was not describing a murder but simply a little street hassle.

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And I've never seen any reason to see it as anything else.
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I agree with you c.d. The so called assault,may even have been initiated by Stride accosting BS man,and him,wishing to have nothing to do with her,w arding her off. Swarthz was behind BS man when the first contact was made,so not in an ideal position to witness the first moves.
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My 2 cents.

Depending on how sure Schwartz was about Lipski, and was telling the truth (no corroboration) I believe in the first one.
BS,drunk, man was trying to control/assault Stride.BS man said Lipski - threatening, not one in particular - at both Pipeman and Schwartz, passersby and both strangers to BS man - both didn't want to get involved and scurried off : or Lizzie at Stride - BS man did not care much about Pipeman and Schwartz's presence (I have seen this happen to couples a few times) but again both didn't want to get involved and scurried off .

Club conspiracy to distance themselves from the fault of murder is less believable than just trying to tell the simple truth if they did not commit it.I believe the club members were sensible enough.
They were just recollecting,in their statements,through best effort.
As has been said before witnesses,club members for ex.,are unreliable because they are thinking of something else when an incident occurs as opposed to preparing to notice something so one could observe the details/sequence.

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