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Old 05-11-2008, 06:36 PM
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Yes, Maxwell stayed with her account despite the challenges. If she was lying about knowing Kelly and Barnett then Joe would have blown her story and he didn't. I don't think she could have been mistaken either, unless she was blind drunk all the time, because she told the story right after the murder.
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Old 05-11-2008, 06:50 PM
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Hi All,

One question we cannot avoid isó

What are the consequences of Caroline Maxwell being right?

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Is it possible, that the estimated time of death could have been THAT far out,or is that unthinkable?
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One question we cannot avoid is—

What are the consequences of Caroline Maxwell being right?
Hello, Simon. I hope things are great with you.

Hmmmm . . . let me see. . .consequences?? Here's one: the fire would be later than anyone thought, and that, in turn, would explain, at least for me, why Abberline misjudged its intensity.

But, still, there must be other more direct consequences.

dougie, while I know not everyone does, I agree. The EDT's couldn't have been that far off.

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Hi Paul,

Just fine thanks. How're things in Wisconsin?

It would also tend to rule out either Mr Blotchy or Mr Astrakhan as the murderer.

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It would also tend to rule out either Mr Blotchy or Mr Astrakhan as the murderer.
May is good for Wisconsin.

OK, OK--It would also tend to rule out Ms. Kelly as the murdered.
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Is it possible, that the estimated time of death could have been THAT far out,or is that unthinkable?
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Well, either he had her on ice, or Dr. Phillips made a very serious mistake. People have been known to make very serious mistakes from time to time, of course...but then, Caroline Maxwell was a person as well....

Who do you think was more reliable?
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Well, either he had her on ice, or Dr. Phillips made a very serious mistake.
Hello, Christine.

If Phillips made a very serious mistake, what about Bond? Phillips put ETD between 5:00 and 6:00; Bond put it between 1:00 and 2:00. Shows this isn't an exact science.
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Since the body was "emptied" that pretty much threw all the TOD estimates up in the air.
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Well, either he had her on ice, or Dr. Phillips made a very serious mistake. People have been known to make very serious mistakes from time to time, of course...but then, Caroline Maxwell was a person as well....

Who do you think was more reliable?
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Not having known either of them,I cant answer that,but in 1888 Im guessing to a large part "estimated time of death" might have been mostly educated guesswork.Did the temperature of the room play any part in the estimated time of death?i.e the fire ...or lack of.
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