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Not as far as I can tell, no.
If I have the right couple, in 1871 Henry Harris (a general dealer age 28) and wife Rebecca (26) were living at Catherine Wheel Alley, Bishopsgate, with a female boarder.
In 1881 at 18 Catherine Wheel Alley Bishopsgate, is Henry Harris aged 32, general dealer and wife Rebbecca age 30 and a female servant. I haven't got access to the images for the 1881 census so can't check the ages.

Henry Harris also had a brother named Moss Harris, b c 1841. On the 1861 census index he is listed with a daur named "Henry" which should actually read "Fanny." This branch of the family are untraceable after 1861 so I don't know if they had any male offspring or not either.
Thanks for those further details. If that's the right man, it certainly seems unlikely that the genealogist Brian Harris is the grandson of Henry Harris the Mitre Square witness.
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Chris, I would think it highly unlikely(but not impossible) that anyone could be the 'grandchild' of someone who heard the screams of a JTR victim and still be around to tell the tale at the present.
I suppose there is a chance that Henry Harris could have remarried after 1901and had a family then, but that still doesn't fit in with the 'young man' in '88 mention.
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Chris, I would think it highly unlikely(but not impossible) that anyone could be the 'grandchild' of someone who heard the screams of a JTR victim and still be around to tell the tale at the present.
I think that's unduly pessimistic. We know that the last grandchild of one of the victims died only this year. Other people concerned with the case could have continued having children well into the 20th century, so it's not too great a stretch. Whether any fresh information is likely to emerge from such quarters, and how far it could be relied on if it did, is another matter.
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I'd say slightly pessimistic. The JC article does make it sound that Brian Harris is currently still a film producer so maybe not an elderly gentleman.
I take on board what you say though...consider me chastised for my pessimism!
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I'd say slightly pessimistic. The JC article does make it sound that Brian Harris is currently still a film producer so maybe not an elderly gentleman.
Oh yes, I do agree it's not likely to be the case here.
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Hi Debs,

I have to side with Chris on the pessimism angle from personal experience. I won't be drawing my pension for a few years yet, but all four of my grandparents were alive and well in 1888, and living in or close to London at the time, albeit the oldest was only eleven at the time.

I'm sure there must still be many a dusty attic around that could be storing a few family gems, even if it's unlikely that anyone currently has anything new to tell that was passed to them directly by a grandparent.

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Hi Caz,

Oh, I side with Chris too about my statement! I made it general terms but meant really the case of Harry Harris. The witness Harris was born c 1840's if it is the right man that Chris found, and like you say, the eldest of your grandparents was only 11 at the time.

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Understood, Debs!

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