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  • #61
    Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View Post
    Well that would be a fine thing, David. What one has to ask is how an unknown and uncaught serial killer can have a finite number of victims.

    You're a thoughtful person. Think about that.
    The same can be asked about uncaught multiple single murderers.

    Goose and Gander I believe.

    Monty
    Monty

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    Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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    • #62
      Hi Neil. I'm not sure what Stephen means, due to his proverbial laconism.
      Could this refer to Macnaghten "5 victims only" ?
      But there again, the Grainger episode proves they didn't "know" that the man was under lock and key.

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      • #63
        And Stephen would be correct David,

        However though I feel Macnaghtens bold statement on the number is questionable, I do see why he chose that figure.

        That said, as established, the memoranda wasn't a case study but more a counter against Cutbush. The figures are irrelevant to it.

        Monty
        Monty

        https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

        Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

        http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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        • #64
          But it's only one.

          Hello Neil.

          "The same can be asked about uncaught multiple single murderers."

          Perhaps, perhaps not. According to my pre-med students and rumours amongst nurses, we would be astonished at the numbers of seriously infirm/terminally ill who are quietly done for by family members, medical people, etc.

          Not to mention husbands who do for their wives--wrong medicine, "household accidents," etc. Many an old Alfred Hitchcock yarn involved this motif.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • #65
            Hmm

            Hello (again) Neil.

            "I feel Macnaghten's bold statement on the number is questionable"

            I think I love you.

            "I do see why he chose that figure."

            So do I. But a mistake is still a mistake.

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View Post
              Well that would be a fine thing, David. What one has to ask is how an unknown and uncaught serial killer can have a finite number of victims.

              You're a thoughtful person. Think about that.
              Because an infinite amount of victims would be impossible.
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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              • #67
                Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                Hello Caroline. I am suggesting that it was figured out later.

                Cheers.
                LC
                Yes, but how could it be 'figured out' at all, when nobody had seen a killer in action, no incriminating evidence was ever found, no credible confession ever obtained...etc etc

                Solutions in a murder case can't be 'figured out' like a maths equation.

                The very best we could expect is that someone thought they had a solution, ie they thought they had figured it out, ie they thought they knew.

                Love,

                Caz
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                Last edited by caz; 03-01-2012, 08:18 PM.
                "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                • #68
                  math

                  Hello Caroline. I understand your position. And, yes, one could THINK the case solved. Then, such a supposed solution either was congruent with the case or it was not.

                  Congruent? Geometry? Ah, math! Maybe it works after all? (heh-heh)

                  Cheers.
                  LC

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                  • #69
                    Not when it's incongruent.

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                    • #70
                      suggestive

                      Hello Scott. Obviously. So, for example, you'll never hear me suggest any of that lone sexual serial killer business.
                      Cheers.
                      LC

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                      • #71
                        The Pink Panther strikes in Whitechapel

                        It'd be funny to have a movie with a clever Inspector (not Abberline, therefore) investigating the ripper murders and being more and more convinced, murder after murder, that there is no serial killer around.
                        Too bad Peter Sellers is dead.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by caz View Post

                          Solutions in a murder case can't be 'figured out' like a maths equation.
                          So why didn't you tell Mr Edwards that?



                          Regards, Jon S.
                          Regards, Jon S.

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                          • #73
                            I probably did, Jon. And knowing Ivor, he'd have given me a mouthful for my pains.

                            Trouble is, it applies to everyone who thinks they have cracked the case, whether they have a lone predator in mind or several individuals, each with different reasons for wanting to snuff out a specific Spitalfields unfortunate.

                            Without the kind of evidence that could have resulted in an actual conviction, all attempts to 'figure out' a solution will always remain just attempts, bolstered only by personal conviction.

                            Love,

                            Caz
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                            "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                            • #74
                              DVV,

                              I cannot be 100% sure about anything in this case, but you do pose a question that leaves open questions upon which ever side one would choose to answer. Very nicely done.
                              It is not in the heart that hate begins but in the mind of those that seek the revenge of creation. Darrel Derek Stieben

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                              • #75
                                As an item of fringe interest, I could of course offer the fact that when prime minister Palme was shot in 1986, one of the leading police investigators actually produced not one but TWO (2) "police solutions". Both Victor Gunnarsson and Christer Petterson were favoured by him, and he thought it a shame that the police was not able to put at least one of them away for the hit, apparently regardless of whom!

                                It makes me wonder how much stock we should invest in "police solutions" - some of them seem more directed to saving the behinds of the police than to finding the true culprit.

                                The best,
                                Fisherman
                                Last edited by Fisherman; 06-08-2012, 05:20 PM.

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