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Oh yes we do my dear boy, because when the door was opened, the doctor and the police then entered the room. So the table was not barricading the door at all.
Yes, indeed. Those particular persons are said to have been entering the room when the door was opened. That is a well established historical fact.

Sources that add knowledge or point in other directions than the canonical sources are often forgotten and/or dismissed.
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Oh my dear boy, please don't let me stop you from analyzing the two newspaper articles and drawing conclusions.

Goodness, how I well remember you saying to me last year:

"You can invest that time in your newspapers.

I can invest that time in the archives."


I didn't realise that you meant the British Newspaper Archives.
BNA is a newspaper archive. There are many other archives. I guess you know this already.
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Sources that add knowledge or point in other directions than the canonical sources are often forgotten and/or dismissed.
Oh there are 'canonical' sources are there my dear boy? Are these the same sources you have previously referred to as the 'official' sources?
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Indeed not, my dear boy, but we do have a very reliable source saying the door knocked against a table.
David, if you were the killer in Millerīs Court, and you pulled the table to a position in front of the door, and you thereafter pulled the bedstead to a position beside it, you would have barricaded the door with the table and the bedstead.

Now, what problems would this action of yours solve?

And what problems would arise from this action of yours?
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Oh there are 'canonical' sources are there my dear boy? Are these the same sources you have previously referred to as the 'official' sources?
Someone who has the time can make a list some day.
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BNA is a newspaper archive. There are many other archives. I guess you know this already.
The BNA is certainly a collection of newspapers in digital form, my dear boy.

I don't need to tell about it you, though, considering that your entire 'research' seems to be carried out in that particular 'archive'.
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Someone who has the time can make a list some day.
My dear boy, I wasn't asking for a list, I was asking you if they are the same thing.
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The BNA is certainly a collection of newspapers in digital form, my dear boy.

I don't need to tell about it you, though, considering that your entire 'research' seems to be carried out in that particular 'archive'.
I work with many archives, David.
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My dear boy, I wasn't asking for a list, I was asking you if they are the same thing.
Sources do not have to be canonical because they are official. But canonical sources often become official and official sources sometimes become canonical.

If you research the new testament for example you deal with that problem.
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Indeed not, my dear boy, but we do have a very reliable source saying the door knocked against a table.
If you were the killer in Millerīs Court, and you pulled the table to a position in front of the door, and you thereafter pulled the bedstead to a position beside it, you would have barricaded the door with the table and the bedstead.

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