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So the doctor[s] who did a post-mortem on Kelly was getting paid.
Why withhold the estimated time of death[ Phillips and Bond had one each] and the possible murder weapon(they did this in the previous inquest).
It wasn't withheld. He simply wasn't asked to give his opinion about this.

The fact that he was paid a statutory fee to perform a post-mortem is utterly irrelevant.
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It would have taken 1 min to say the estimated TOD and the possible
murder weapon.The doctor was getting paid for it.
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Why withhold the estimated time of death[ Phillips and Bond had one each]
I've no doubt Phillips had an opinion on the time of death, but the way you word the above is as if you think Bond & Phillips had a different opinion on the time of death.
Is that what you mean?
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It would have taken 1 min to say the estimated TOD and the possible
murder weapon.The doctor was getting paid for it.
It doesn't matter how quick it would have taken. He wasn't asked to give that evidence.
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So basically Phillips only said enough of the medical evidence ,
'The large quantity of blood under the bedstead, the saturated condition of the palliasse, pillow, and sheet at the top corner of the
bedstead nearest to the partition leads me to the conclusion that the severance of the right carotid artery, which was the immediate
cause of death, was inflicted while the deceased was lying at the right side of the bedstead and her head and neck in the top right-hand corner. "

just enough for Macdonald to:

" It is quite sufficient if they find out what the cause of death was".

and the jury to decide.

No more of the rest of the medical evidence, time of death (would have helped answering the 'when"),even the murder weapon,the PC on the beat or any member of the police, and additional witnesses that may have come out the next day and the next inquest,a week or two away usually.

It was restricted and wrapped up quickly.In other inquests,Nichols,Chapman Eddowes,the doctor related his post-mortem,he was getting paid,and the normal questioning from the coroner.But why was it hurried up? They had no suspects,only Blotchy.

I'm saying it was because there was no PC on the beat It would have created a lot of criticism and embarrassment from everywhere.

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I'm saying it was because there was no PC on the beat It would have created a lot of criticism and embarrassment from everywhere.
The inquest could have continued for the rest of the year but it still wasn't meant to investigate whether there were sufficient police constables on the streets. That wasn’t the role of an inquest. Therefore your speculation is seriously flawed.

You keep talking about money but there was a cost to the public purse of continuing the inquest. The jurors clearly wanted to get back to work. The coroner did not want his inquest to duplicate the role of the police investigation. The doctor was paid a statutory fee for carrying out a post mortem and attending at the inquest and he had done both things as required of him. The cause of death had been established and the jurors were able to sign off on the inquisition with all the details of the death required by statute.

Could the inquest have continued for many more days to find out more information? Yes, of course. Was it required to do so by law? No, it wasn't.
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