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Old 01-15-2010, 08:27 PM
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On a saved thread, Rob Clack wrote:

Great Eastern Square was the area in front of the board school and extended as far as Thomas Street (now Fulbourne Street). It got it's name from the Great Eastern Railways coal depot which was on the North side of Bucks Row. And because it was such a small area, it does not appear on many maps. Surprisingly it does not appear on the 1873 O.S maps.

It is shown on this London 1868 map which MAPCO recently put out on their site. Scroll to bottom right.

http://london1868.com/weller33b.htm

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On a saved thread, Rob Clack wrote:

Great Eastern Square was the area in front of the board school and extended as far as Thomas Street (now Fulbourne Street). It got it's name from the Great Eastern Railways coal depot which was on the North side of Bucks Row. And because it was such a small area, it does not appear on many maps. Surprisingly it does not appear on the 1873 O.S maps.

It is shown on this London 1868 map which MAPCO recently put out on their site. Scroll to bottom right.

http://london1868.com/weller33b.htm

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Hi All,

Great Eastern Square was a large open space in front of the Board School, across which Charles Cross and Robert Paul were walking from Bucks Row at exactly the same time as PC Neil was approaching from the opposite direction.

Yet Neil denied seeing Cross and Paul, and vice versa.

Discuss.

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It must have been not exactly the same time.

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Try telling that to Coroner Wynne Baxter. It's all in Nichols' official inquest transcript, and Abberline's report.

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How exactly did he arrive at that conclusion if the eyewitnesses denied the fact and there was no video observation or anything present?

Did all bobbies have watches back then? Even if they had, Cross and Paul surely would not have...
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Hi Roy,

Here's a photograph showing Great Eastern Square [where the carts are] with the Board School to the right of the picture.

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Hard to believe that at 3.45 am Cross and Paul [walking west] missed PC Neil [walking east] whilst crossing such a large wide open space.

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PS. I've lost the name of the person who first provided this pic, but my thanks and acknowledgment anyway.
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:57 PM
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Thanks for sharing that, Simon.

RED-route of Cross & Paul from murder site to finding PC Mizen
BLUE-route of PC Neil to murder site.

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Hi Roy,
Here's a photograph showing Great Eastern Square [where the carts are] with the Board School to the right of the picture.
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Hard to believe that at 3.45 am Cross and Paul [walking west] missed PC Neil [walking east] whilst crossing such a large wide open space.
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PS. I've lost the name of the person who first provided this pic, but my thanks and acknowledgment anyway.
I don't mind you using my photo's Simon.
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Old 01-18-2010, 11:02 PM
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Thank you, Stewart,

I'd narrowed it down to you, Rob Clack or Philip Hutchinson, but wasn't sure which.

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