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Just for completeness, the Edith M Druitt, grand-daughter of Jabez and listed as living with him in 1891,. was the daughter of his son Alfred. I presume she was living with her grandfather as her mother, Elizabeth, had died young in 1882
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Jabez's son, Alfred, remarried.
His first marriage was in 1874 to Elizabeth Littlejohn, but she died in 1882 at the age of only 25. In 1891 Alfred is listed as follows:
118 Bridge Street, Mile End
Head: Alfred Druitt aged 35 born Stepney - Stone mason
Wife: Phoebe Druitt aged 37 born Shadwell.
Children:
Alfred J aged 14
George aged 5
Both born in Stepney

This second marriage was registered in Hackney in the last quarter of 1883, and his second wife's name was Phoebe Danforth.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:58 AM
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In 1901 Alfred is listed as follows:
23 Forest Drive, East ham, Essex
Head: Alfred Druitt aged 45 born Stepney - Monumental stonemason
Wife: Phoebe Druitt aged 47 born Stepney
Child:
George aged 15 born Stepney

In 1901 Emily was living with her sister Alice and her husband. Annie was also living with them.

Boxobell, Lowther Hill, Lewisham
Head: Edward S Flint aged 59 born Brixton - Company accountant
Wife: Alice S Flint aged 48 born Stepney
Brothers:
Charles Flint aged 56 born Brixton - Warehouseman
Walter B Flint aged 53 born West Ham - Commercial Traveller
Sisters in Law:
Annie Druitt aged 38 born Stepney
Emily J Druitt aged 36 born Stepney
Servant:
Mary Fruin aged 17 born Leytonstone

Lowther Hill is only 3.7 miles from Eliot Place, Blackheath where M J Druitt taught.
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Can we read anything significant in Crawford's female being 'nearly related' rather than 'related'? If she was a sister or a cousin would she not simply be described as 'related' to the suspect? If Crawford's female was Jabe'z daughter Emily might she suspect she was related to MJD just because of a shared surname? Might this explain the rather odd expression 'nearly related' rather than just straightforward 'related'?
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Hi CN
Interesting point.
The word "nearly" is of course ambiguous and the possible meanings put very different interpretations on Crawford's letter.
If the meaning is nearly as in "almost", then the implication would be the unknown female was outside the circle of immediate relations.
If the meaning is nearly as in "closely" (as in a "near relation") then the implication would be pretty much the opposite, i.e. a member of the immediate family circle
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I'm posting this on behalf of Pat Marshall, who is in Edinburgh.

Recently the National Library of Scotland kindly gave permission for her to look at the correspondence of the 26th Earl of Crawford (and 9th of Balcarres), which is held there. Unfortunately relatively little of the earl's correspondence survives. Pat checked what there was (details below) but unfortunately didn't find any correspondence with Anderson, or any other reference to the case.

Although the result is a bit disappointing, I'm very pleased that Pat has been able to check these papers, which might well have shed some light on the mystery of the Crawford Letter.
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Acc. 9769, Personal Papers, Boxes 95/1-3 and 96/1

Includes incoming personal correspondence, 1854-1913, incoming family correspondence, 1854-1913, draft replies (family), 1863-1906, draft replies (personal), ?1874-1910, and correspondence of the earl to his wife, 1868-1910.
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Here's the original scans in case anyone's interested - thanks for starting the thread Andy!

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Quote:To recap on my update to "Emily and the Bibliophile"...

I found that the "Emily Druitt" who worked with Quaritch/Muir in 1886/1887 was in fact related to a different line of Druitts through Jabez and Sophia Druitt of Mile End - she was not Emily Druitt, MJ's cousin (though both were art students). Muir was the son-in-law of Sophia and Jabez Druitt. My source for this was: “Blake: An Illustrated Quarterly”, Vol. 27, No. 1, Summer 1993.

A post made by Chris Phillips back in 2003 indicates that there exists within the Druitt papers evidence that Jabez was in contact with the family of Robert Druitt (MJ's uncle). If true this may indicate that there may still be a link between the Druitts and Crawford, via Quaritch.

It has also been suggested that the Crawford letter might relate not to Druitt but to Kosminski, who we know was Anderson's favored suspect.

What remains are the questions, Who was the woman Crawford introduced to Anderson, and Why did Anderson see fit to keep only this item in his personal correspondence (it was the only item I found in the Anderson family papers which has anything to do with the Ripper case).

Obviously it would be great to pore through Crawford's own correspondence to see if any mentions are made of this incident.
Stephen P. Ryder, Exec. Editor
Casebook: Jack the Ripper
Dear Casebook

With reference to Stephen Ryders above statement. I am currently trying to discover more about THe Earl of Crawford his connection to Sir Robert Anderson and of course some of the questions Stephen himself Raises.

I understand that this letter was the only letter that has reference to the Whitechapel Murders. However no mention is made of the other some 599 letters that accompany this particular item.

Given the the importance of this letter as a singular item, this appears relevant , I was wondering if anyone knew the dates (If any) subject and types of letters that are also included in the collection with this letter.

Given that little else of Anderson correspondence appears to have survived it might be pertinent and would appreciate any information your might offer

Yours Sincerely
Mt Jeff Leahy
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