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Old 11-13-2010, 08:17 PM
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Hi Stewart,

While it is impossible for any of us to state with absolute certainty about whom Anderson was referring, I do find it difficult to believe it was the trusted, valued and devoted Chief Constable Adolphus Williamson he described as "unimaginative" and "prosaic". But at the same time it is clear that the phrase "one of my principal subordinates" [my italics] fits the bill and does tend to rule out Abberline. It was their coincidental uses of the nicknames "Red Bob" and "Shrimps" which initially led me to think this might be the case.

Of course, as we come to learn more about Anderson's somewhat rarified opinion of himself and, in this instance, his obvious delight in associating his investigative technique with that of Sherlock Holmes, it could be the case that he had no particular person in mind and was merely taking the opportunity to suggest an intellectual superiority over that of his subordinates.

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Thanks Stewart for clearing that up.

To Jason

Neither mention the other in their memoirs having worked together so closely for so many years.

Anderson makes a fleeting and unflattering [un-named] reference to Mac -- so identified by Swanson in his copy of the memoirs.

The very fact that they chose diametrically opposed suspects, and that Macnaghten in his memoirs criticises Anderson -- no name -- for releasing the hoax letter, which he himself, he claims, worked out in June 1890 was an hoax.

Plus Mac's debunking of the twin ideas that there was a chief witness and that the chief suspect was ever 'detained' in an asylum. It does not matter that this actually refers to separate suspects as Mac never makes this distinction.

Mac's memoirs are dedicated to Anderson's successor.

It's a very English, very upper crust form of frosty, polite Stalinism.
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Hello Jonathan,

With the greatest respect to all concerned, I do not believe Stewart cleared up anything, he merely gave an opinion.

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Old 11-14-2010, 05:26 AM
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Remembering that Stewart and I disagree about many things to do with Macnaghten, regarding this aspect of the case his expert opinion was good enough for me.

Why always nickel-and-dime ourselves like an old married couple?
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:09 AM
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Hi Stewart,
While it is impossible for any of us to state with absolute certainty about whom Anderson was referring, I do find it difficult to believe it was the trusted, valued and devoted Chief Constable Adolphus Williamson he described as "unimaginative" and "prosaic". But at the same time it is clear that the phrase "one of my principal subordinates" [my italics] fits the bill and does tend to rule out Abberline. It was their coincidental uses of the nicknames "Red Bob" and "Shrimps" which initially led me to think this might be the case.
Of course, as we come to learn more about Anderson's somewhat rarified opinion of himself and, in this instance, his obvious delight in associating his investigative technique with that of Sherlock Holmes, it could be the case that he had no particular person in mind and was merely taking the opportunity to suggest an intellectual superiority over that of his subordinates.
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Simon, no it's not Williamson he refers to, it's John Shore. I had this pointed out to me by a close colleague and I checked back in a book I have had for many years and not consulted lately and I can confirm it's definitely Shore. That'll teach me to keep answering posts off the top of my head - the old memory isn't what it was.
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Hi Stewart,

Thank you. Very droll.

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