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Like I said, I'm not playing that game. And it's not because I can't, it's because I can't be arsed.
No, Gareth, it is because you have no case. Disprove it or live with it.
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No, Gareth, it is because you have no case. Disprove it or live with it.
Like I said, Fish, I've no interest in playing that game. There is a case - and a far, far stronger one than you could possibly make for linking the Torso killings and Ripper murders. If you can't see that, then it's not my problem, sorry.
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Like I said, Fish, I've no interest in playing that game. There is a case - and a far, far stronger one than you could possibly make for linking the Torso killings and Ripper murders. If you can't see that, then it's not my problem, I'm afraid.
That may well be something you think. But that was never what was under discussion. What was under discussion was he fact that you claimed that there were "much, much more similarities" between the Napper murders and the Ash-Smith murder than between the Ripper murders and the Torso murders.

Now you want to move the goalposts and instead speak of your inner conviction that there is a far stronger case for linking your cases than mine, a conviction that I do not share. But that won´t matter, since you will inevitably do the same thing again: state something as a fact and then stay VERY far away from proving your point.

It is a completely useless exercise, and it is not flattering for you at all. If you have a case to make, then make it and be done with it. If not, then don´t.

I´m through with it, because I don´t like it one bit.
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That may well be something you think. But that was never what was under discussion. What was under discussion was he fact that you claimed that there were "much, much ore similarities between the Napper murders and the Ash-Smith murder than between the Ripper murders and the Torso murders.
There are, in terms of significant similarities. Insignificant links can, of course, be obtained by generalising too much and blurring the selection criteria, but I wouldn't advocate that as a sensible way forward.
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Now you want to move the goalposts and instead speak of your inner conviction that there is a far stronger case for linking your cases than mine
There are more similarities, objectively speaking.
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It is a completely useless exercise, and it is not flattering for you at all.
I'll let others be the judge of that, Fish.
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I've told you, I'm not going to waste my time. You'll only piss on everything I say, so what's the point?
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There are, in terms of significant similarities. Insignificant links can, of course, be obtained by generalising too much and blurring the selection criteria, but I wouldn't advocate that as a sensible way forward.There are more similarities, objectively speaking.I'll let others be the judge of that, Fish.I've told you, I'm not going to waste my time. You'll only piss on everything I say, so what's the point?
The point is to have a flawed and faulty argument pissed at. If that is what you think I aim to do. Otherwise, it is to have a flawed and faulty argument fairly criticized. And I have done that already.
There are three similarities between your examples and twelve between the torso and ripper cases. And since you don´t want to "play games" it should delight you to hear that this means game over.
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