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Old 08-31-2016, 10:34 AM
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The age-old problem is that we have only the behaviour of the ones who got caught to use as a baseline, and without at least some comparative data on undetected serial killers, we have no conclusive way to say how representative the behaviour of captured serial killers is compared to the pool of all serial killers.

On my more cynical days, I expect some sociologist to propose amnesty for murderers so they don't exist "out of sight", and can be properly studied.
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Old 08-31-2016, 10:56 AM
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Good job, Harry - you are catching on!
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:14 AM
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The age-old problem is that we have only the behaviour of the ones who got caught to use as a baseline, and without at least some comparative data on undetected serial killers, we have no conclusive way to say how representative the behaviour of captured serial killers is compared to the pool of all serial killers.

On my more cynical days, I expect some sociologist to propose amnesty for murderers so they don't exist "out of sight", and can be properly studied.
A great idea - you should be jailed for it and given the Nobel prize simultaneously.
It is a very good point you make, nevertheless - what we have on record are caught serialists. And they are normally at it as they are caught. Very few are caught many years after the deeds, but there IS the odd exception, as the BTK killer and this Chinese man.
How many serialists stay uncaught for every serialist who IS caught? One? Two? More? I really donīt know, but I guess that somebody does know, or has an educated guess. Any which way, I am very sure that a very significant number of the uncaught serialists actually do stop killing. Old age, sexuality tapering off, the thrill going away, substitutions found - there can reasonably be numerous reasons for serialists calling it a day.
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So, a LAPD policeman thinks the Grim Sleeper kept killing.

Somehow, I would prefer evidence to speculations. And I am quite convinced that there are scores of serialists who stopped killing - and who were never caught.
Spat all over my computer when I read that.
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Spat all over my computer when I read that.
Yes, I can imagine so.

The article was enlightening and very sad, too. I couldn't help thinking that the serial killer throughout history has focused on vulnerable people as his (usually his, sometimes hers) victims. Whether by age, gender, class, living conditions or occupation, the people who are considered "expendable" will be attractive to the murderer who kills for his own desires.
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Spat all over my computer when I read that.
Did you now? Why was that? And howīs your computer?
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Old 09-01-2016, 03:08 AM
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Yes, I can imagine so.

The article was enlightening and very sad, too. I couldn't help thinking that the serial killer throughout history has focused on vulnerable people as his (usually his, sometimes hers) victims. Whether by age, gender, class, living conditions or occupation, the people who are considered "expendable" will be attractive to the murderer who kills for his own desires.
Yes Pcdunn serial killers tend to target those who will not be missed by many so that are less likely to be caught. Also they tend to pick easy targets such as prostitutes working the streets at night on there own.

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With no particular bearing on anything...Ted Bundy did apparently...allegedly...father a child.

She was conceived in the visiting area of death row, according to one story (although I find that incredibly hard to believe). I don't really know what to make of the whole thing, but there are certainly some pictures of a very happy looking post-incarceration Bundy with his 'wife' and a small child who looks very like him.

Stranger than fiction.....
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With no particular bearing on anything...Ted Bundy did apparently...allegedly...father a child.

She was conceived in the visiting area of death row, according to one story (although I find that incredibly hard to believe). I don't really know what to make of the whole thing, but there are certainly some pictures of a very happy looking post-incarceration Bundy with his 'wife' and a small child who looks very like him.

Stranger than fiction.....
Letīs hope she is not named Carol...
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