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Hmm, but I'll never be convinced that THAT shot wasn't fired from the front and side - not at all. There's nothing anyone can say that will change my view, and the magic bullet theory is ridiculous fantasy for me.
So you are not open to any evidence that does not fit your own assumption?

The bullet did not turn in mid air, there was nothing magic about it, it went straight through Kennedy and hit Connally and the bullet was certainly not "pristine".
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I have actually stood (and nearly got killed by the traffic) just in front of the famous 'Grassy Knoll', with the TBD to my left and slightly behind me. If it was LHO up there in the TBD building, then it was a bloody good shot, but not an impossible shot. However, anyone who looks at the Zapruder Film can see quite clearly that a shot hit JFK from more or less in front of him and to his right, and threw his head right back with the impact. That shot, I contend, could have come from only the area of the 'Grassy Knoll', yet it seems to me that this possibility had been glossed over for years. Why? Because to accept it pre-supposes that there really was more than one gunman that day? Or what? I have also never quite come to terms with the accepted facts regarding LHO's arrest following the shooting of Officer Tippet. It seems to me that he was pinched very, very quickly after that event.

Something is going on here, and has been for more than 54 years......hasn't it?

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Something is going on here, and has been for more than 54 years......hasn't it?

What coming up with bizarre theories about a murder then getting a book published to a salivating public desperate for answers?

I'm not suggesting our Jack was involved in the JFK assassination (although it would be the ultimate JFK/Ripper crossover suspect book) but the two cases may have more in common than at first glance.
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Hmm, but I'll never be convinced that THAT shot wasn't fired from the front and side - not at all. There's nothing anyone can say that will change my view, and the magic bullet theory is ridiculous fantasy for me.
So you are immune to facts?

The so-called Magic Bullet Theory isnít necessary. Science has proven, absolutely, categorically that the bullet trajectory lines up perfectly. Connolly was sitting lower than Kennedy and to his left. No issues at all.

3 shots from behind. One missed, one hit Kennedy in the back, one was the head shot. No conspiracy required.
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I have actually stood (and nearly got killed by the traffic) just in front of the famous 'Grassy Knoll', with the TBD to my left and slightly behind me. If it was LHO up there in the TBD building, then it was a bloody good shot, but not an impossible shot. However, anyone who looks at the Zapruder Film can see quite clearly that a shot hit JFK from more or less in front of him and to his right, and threw his head right back with the impact. That shot, I contend, could have come from only the area of the 'Grassy Knoll', yet it seems to me that this possibility had been glossed over for years. Why? Because to accept it pre-supposes that there really was more than one gunman that day? Or what? I have also never quite come to terms with the accepted facts regarding LHO's arrest following the shooting of Officer Tippet. It seems to me that he was pinched very, very quickly after that event.

Something is going on here, and has been for more than 54 years......hasn't it?

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Iím a bit rusty on my JFK. The shots were fired from the book depository by Oswald with no help from Grassy Knoll phantoms. When the Zapruder film is analysed Kennedyís head moves forward very slightly on first impact than backward. A combination of the bullet exploding in his brain and the Ďjet effectí makes the head jar backwards. Exactly as scientific experts say that it would. Also, on closer analysis, the arterial spray from Kennedy goes in front of him. Shot from behind without doubt.

Oswalds actions after the assassination have Ďobvious guiltí written all over them. He couldnít have acted more like a guilty man if heíd tried. A description had been put out, Tippit stopped him. He was seen acting suspiciously then entering the cinema without paying.
When he was arrested the gun he was carrying was scientifically identified as the gun that killed Tippit to the exclusion of every other gun in the world. It was traced to Kleinís Sporting Goods Store in Chicago I believe. Bought in the name of A.Hidell (as was the rifle that killed Kennedy) Oswald had a library card for an A.Hidell.

Read Reinventing History by Bugliosi. Itís game over for the conspiracy theorists.
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That should be "Reclaiming History", and yes anyone who has an interest in the case should read it.
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That should be "Reclaiming History", and yes anyone who has an interest in the case should read it.
Thanks for pointing that one out Dave. I canít even blame auto-correct for that one! Just my brain
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Thanks for pointing that one out Dave. I canít even blame auto-correct for that one! Just my brain

I had one of those last week, I genuinely could not remember if it was 2016 or 2017.

I'm hoping it was just spending too much time in the past and not the early onset of something!
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I had one of those last week, I genuinely could not remember if it was 2016 or 2017.

I'm hoping it was just spending too much time in the past and not the early onset of something!
It must be something thatís Ďstuckí,in my brain because itís not the first time Iíve made the same error
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From what I understand the "extra" 25 years was as a result of the Oliver Stone film, and his subsequent interviews and the like ( by the way, I love the film... think it is an amazing piece of cinema...but it is almost total B.S....Stone made up some facts for "dramatic license" others he just believed were true that were not (and proven to be not true.. even before he made the film), he completely misrepresented SEVERAL "characters" and then marketed the film by claiming he was in hiding because the government was going to kill him for exposing the truth (I always remember those via satellite interviews and thinking....really...if the government is really looking for you, you don't think they could track you with this??)..so at the time of all this JFK hysteria they set a date to release the files....and here we are approaching that date.....let me mention again.. I really do like the film, and think it is worth watching...not as a fact finding endeavor, but entertainment with some of the biggest stars and best cameo's ever!!!
I am not sure that Stone was trying to "alter facts", I believe he was very passionate about the topic and truly believed what he put on screen... it shows in the finish product, excellent piece of film making!!


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