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Hey, Henry, I Never professed to be..

but theres lines that shouldn't be crossed, especially when its all about getting cheap laughs and virtual pats on the back? no?
No.

You don't get to draw lines for others. Draw them for yourself, no problem.
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No.

You don't get to draw lines for others. Draw them for yourself, no problem.

Who made you school prefect?

Some people have no class and need reminding.. thats all I have to say on the matter.
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Anachronisms, basic errors, dodgy provenance and confessions aren't enough for some people. They just want to belieeeeeeve!
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This is in bad taste, besmirching a mans name who's only real crime was wanting enough cash for a greenhouse and 'confession' was clearly only to get back at anne...

Ok, he was no saint but he's not long cold so lets reign things in alittle here
Your kidding right?

Oh the irony.
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but what are you saying here Caz? the diary came out of Battlecrease House in its complete form?
Hi Abby,

How else do you imagine it could have come out, given that it arrived in London 'in its complete form' on 13 April?

It bemuses me how some people are suggesting the time would be too tight for anyone to get word to Mike about 'the' diary on 9 March and for him to make a couple of exploratory phone calls the same day to test the waters.

Yet the time would not apparently be too tight for word to get to Mike on 9 March about some old scrapbook with blank pages being found under floorboards; for Mike then to devise a cunning plan, based on those floorboards being in the former bedroom of James Maybrick, in the house once called Battlecrease, to frame him as Jack the Ripper by faking his diary using the blank pages; then to obtain all the materials and books needed to execute that plan; and finally to take the finished product to London on 13 April?

And not one of the electricians was willing to say that Mike had turned this worthless old book, which had been 'liberated' from the house, into a serial killer's diary and made a shed load [or greenhouse load] of money out of it in the process?

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Yet the time would not apparently be too tight for word to get to Mike on 9 March about some old scrapbook with blank pages being found under floorboards; for Mike then to devise a cunning plan, based on those floorboards being in the former bedroom of James Maybrick, in the house once called Battlecrease, to frame him as Jack the Ripper by faking his diary using the blank pages; then to obtain all the materials and books needed to execute that plan; and finally to take the finished product to London on 13 April?

Naysayers in a nutshell...
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Hi Abby,

How else do you imagine it could have come out, given that it arrived in London 'in its complete form' on 13 April?

It bemuses me how some people are suggesting the time would be too tight for anyone to get word to Mike about 'the' diary on 9 March and for him to make a couple of exploratory phone calls the same day to test the waters.

Yet the time would not apparently be too tight for word to get to Mike on 9 March about some old scrapbook with blank pages being found under floorboards; for Mike then to devise a cunning plan, based on those floorboards being in the former bedroom of James Maybrick, in the house once called Battlecrease, to frame him as Jack the Ripper by faking his diary using the blank pages; then to obtain all the materials and books needed to execute that plan; and finally to take the finished product to London on 13 April?

And not one of the electricians was willing to say that Mike had turned this worthless old book, which had been 'liberated' from the house, into a serial killer's diary and made a shed load [or greenhouse load] of money out of it in the process?

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Whats the provenance, let alone evidence that it came out of that house?

Why couldn't MB have been planning the hoax for a lot longer?
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Kaz, people tend to use their common sense to dissect the "coincidences" and weigh up the chances, and that's something that diary advocates tend to not do.
Hi Mike,

You're quite wrong. Diary researchers have independently used their common sense to dissect coincidences and weigh up the chances.

How would you dissect the coincidence and weigh up the chances of the diary coming out of Maybrick's old bedroom on the very same day Mike Barrett decided to phone Doreen about it?

Yet that is what the evidence - when looked at in context and in its entirety - indicates.

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As far as the new book, I've been told that it doesn't contain anything new besides the names of the electricians.
Then you've been sold a pup, by someone who claims to know something you don't. Oh the irony.

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...this talk of well they haven't read the book is about as useless a claim as I know something you don't know, which is especially useless when there's nothing else to know besides the names of a few electricians.
Priceless. Of course anyone who has read a book you haven't will 'know something you don't know'. That's why you have to read it for yourself before you can possibly know if what you have 'been told' is accurate or a gross distortion of what's actually in it.

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...but theres lines that shouldn't be crossed, especially when its all about getting cheap laughs and virtual pats on the back? no?
But routinely accusing someone who is no longer here to defend themselves of perpetrating the most notorious series of murders in history is just fine.

The one thing that matches many people's gullibility is their hypocrisy.
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Whats the provenance, let alone evidence that it came out of that house?

Why couldn't MB have been planning the hoax for a lot longer?
I'll leave that for you to read up on and work out for yourself, Abby.

Some people can't be helped; and some don't really want to be.

And I can't work miracles on either.

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