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Thank you for clarifying, but what significance do you place on whether the apron was full or partial?
Because if she wasnt wearing a full apron, then the killer could not have cut or torn a piece as has been suggested all these years.

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So, the killer cut off a piece of apron to wipe his hands/knife after cutting through the colon.
hi jon. i have the apron being cut before the mutilations began. if jack the ripper had cut the apron after cutting her face and abdomen, there would have been blood on both sides of the apron, along the cut, from the blood on the blade.

he strangles her, cuts her apron, then mutilates her.
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Because if she wasnt wearing a full apron, then the killer could not have cut or torn a piece as has been suggested all these years.

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Sorry, I'm not sure I'm following your line of reasoning. Are you suggesting someone else already had a piece of Catherine's apron and discarded it at Goulston street for some reason.
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Philosophical question: how much material can you cut away from an apron before it is no longer an apron, but only a piece of an apron?
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hi jon. i have the apron being cut before the mutilations began.
That's what I suspect too, Robert.
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hi jon. i have the apron being cut before the mutilations began.
What purpose would that serve?
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Sorry, I'm not sure I'm following your line of reasoning. Are you suggesting someone else already had a piece of Catherine's apron and discarded it at Goulston street for some reason.
I think what Trevor is suggesting is that somebody else's apron fragment matched Eddowes' partial apron precisely. However, the bloody and shitty Goulston Street apron piece matched the bloody and shitty remainder of an apron which remained attached to Eddowes' body, as is attested by at least three witnesses. Trevor refuses to see the bloody and shitty obvious in this simple and straightforward matter.
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What purpose would that serve?
Perhaps the killer was thinking ahead?

Perhaps he knew (from experience) that he'd need it later to clean up, or intended to use the cloth to wrap the knife handle, making it less slippery when covered in blood?
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What purpose would that serve?
i dont know yet but the pieces of the apron should have been easier to marry up if the cut had been made with a bloody knife since the blood would have been on both pieces. my memory is shot but i think they matched the pieces up by the fabric, meaning the apron was not cut with a bloody knife.
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meaning the apron was not cut with a bloody knife.
Or he wiped the knife before cutting the apron?
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