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View Poll Results: How many letters were real?
1 9 64.29%
2 3 21.43%
3 0 0%
4 1 7.14%
5 or more 1 7.14%
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:10 PM
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Oh, definitely the 17th Sept letter.




Ha! Not really! I go for a solid zero.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:36 PM
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Well I too might be in the minority I agree that if any of them were real it would be the From Hell letter. I just look at the handwriting and have trouble believing they are all from the same person.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:21 AM
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Hi again,

It would be interesting to know what people think the hoax punch line was with From Hell, because it seems to me that to produce a human kidney section, matching in general, the one taken from Kate...at the same approximate "age", taken from a human over two weeks earlier...and to include with it a note that has the killer offering this only to Lusk, the "hoaxer" either was humorless, or a nerd and humourless. I mean Dear Boss has press appeal, as does Saucy Jack..the snappy penmanship, the cheery ghoul phrases, a literate killer. From Hell is aptly named I think, and I think perhaps only a killer, or a prisoner would know what that really feels like.. while still alive that is.

Dear Boss and Saucy Jack have the distinction of being the only two that were reproduced and printed in poster format and circulated, but I dont see that as their official line on "Jacks handwriting" ...just good old fashioned Police work. And these are the only two where authors in the press business are suggested. Along with a later missive. Fabulous motive there.

Whats the motive for sending a human sample? Shock? Then why to only Lusk? Fun? Not really an "up" note with it.., To suggest the author is in fact whom he claims to be? That he means this..its real. Thats a motive...and not really for a hoaxer.

And no silly name like Jack the Ripper....Springheel Jack, Bootstrap Bill, or whatever.....I think this guy would have chosen something more like Phoenix, or perhaps Pilgrim....no offense to the member here of the same name, or The Reaper. Someone with the power to change the world around him with what he knows...at least in his own opinion. Someone who is above mere mortals, seeking greater goals...

Uteri produce life. Hmm? Connection? I think this guy played God...so he might have seen himself as one.

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Old 02-28-2008, 01:01 PM
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Hi all!

My suspicion here is that there will be numerous posters saying what has already been said on the poll: Probably none of the letters were genuine. And then there will be a lot of throat-clearing and humming, followed by a "but if any of them was actually the real stuff, there is something about that Lusk letter..."

Myself, I would say that the weighed evidence coming from Brown and Openshaw seem to point firmly away from the Lusk letter being genuine. And therefore I will place my bet on the non-existing Zero button - and then add that there is something about that Lusk letter...

Annoying, isnīt it?

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Old 02-28-2008, 06:18 PM
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Hi all,

I would think that most of us would agree that the letters which are really intended only to mock and boast never contained information that could be used to validate the authenticity of the author, pre-crime, or with strictly police held information about the crime scene.

The Lusk note is sent with a piece of anatomy that in general matches the organ likely taken from a woman over two weeks prior. There is effort taken there to validate the penmans ID. I cant recall another letter, other than some of the predictive ones, that is so earnestly seeking validation that the killer is willing to share a prize with his pursuer...and just one pursuer, not the Metro Police, Scotland Yard or Central Press.

Its intimate...and therefore for me, way creepier than any other....its the coolheaded killer in No Country for Old men... Victorian Style.

My best regards all.
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:19 AM
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To mimic others, if I had to choose one it would be From Hell but I'm only about sixty percent certain. The only other one that comes close is the graffito but that is even lower and probably not worth mentioning.
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Old 02-29-2008, 05:31 AM
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Most Ripperologists insist that, at the very least, 3 of them are Ripper writings. Personally, I think the handwriting suggests 5 or more of them were. An unpopular view admittedly.
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:41 AM
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All the letters were real. I mean, I suspect they were all really written. The authorship is the mystery.

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Old 02-29-2008, 10:31 PM
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Hey Mr. Helpful, wow that was funny - you should get a new username, something like Mr. Funny instead of Mr. Helpful. Kinda reminds me of Jack Handy
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:38 PM
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Well... a definite on the Goulston Graffiti but what version do we believe to be accurate? Will they... or they will they "not" be blamed for nothing?
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