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Old 08-06-2014, 09:46 PM
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Every day on the radio here they have an "On This Day Segment" today's included death of Martha "Thought to be JtR's first victim".
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"Thought to be JtR's first victim".
But probably not.
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But probably not.
To be clear the comment about 1st victim was from the radio not me.
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To be clear the comment about 1st victim was from the radio not me.
Yeah, I got that.

Out of interest, what is your stance on Tabram?
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Yeah, I got that.

Out of interest, what is your stance on Tabram?
Probably about 50:50, what day is it, Oh yeah Friday so he done it, if it was Thursday No way.
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But probably not.
Possibly not. If it wasn't for MacNaghten's 'definite' claim of 5 victims and 5 victims only I suspect that much more credence would be given to the possibility that Tabram was killed by the same man as Nichols and Chapman.
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Probably about 50:50, what day is it, Oh yeah Friday so he done it, if it was Thursday No way.
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Possibly not. If it wasn't for MacNaghten's 'definite' claim of 5 victims and 5 victims only I suspect that much more credence would be given to the possibility that Tabram was killed by the same man as Nichols and Chapman.
Why only those two?
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RIP, Martha. It's getting to be anniversary season again.
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Possibly not. If it wasn't for MacNaghten's 'definite' claim of 5 victims and 5 victims only I suspect that much more credence would be given to the possibility that Tabram was killed by the same man as Nichols and Chapman.
Seventy per cent of the voters on the ajdacent thread about Martha Tabram, "Ripper victim or not?", have gone for a "Yes!" on that question, so we´re pretty much already there, I think, Colin!

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Tabram's murder seems too frenzied and has none of Jack's usual signatures. Obviously the counter-argument is that Tabram was a 'trial run' of sorts before the killer could refine his technique. Would the murderer really make such a radical change in MO from one victim to the next? I prefer to place her in the Emma Smith category as a gang hit rather than a Ripper victim.
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