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My point with the photo was that it looked like a mortuary photo and not a scene of crime one.
Point established I think.

As such any intestines potruding can be ascribed to such movement rather than simply the results of the intestines jumping out.


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Phillips was handed the GS piece at Leman St police station.

He did not take it to the mortuary at Golden Lane till the following day when it was then matched with the piece at the mortuary.

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Then how did Inspector McWilliam see the apron piece from GS matched up at the mortuary by Dr. Brown? He wasn't at the post mortem, was he? McWilliam went directly to the mortuary from the crime scene after the body was removed.
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Phillips was handed the GS piece at Leman St police station.

He did not take it to the mortuary at Golden Lane till the following day when it was then matched with the piece at the mortuary.

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I'm not disputing the fact Leman St. was dealing with this murder, but Long took the piece to Commercial St.
It only stands to reason Commercial St. will contact Leman St. to get them involved, and Phillips will be called for to look into this personally.

It is also reasonable to believe Phillips took the piece to St. Georges mortuary to see if it belonged to Stride.
As it obviously did not, then Leman St. will communicate with the City Police at the Old Jewry, which may be why Golden Lane mortuary was informed that Phillips is on his way with some potential evidence, but this was the same day not the following day.
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.. Stuff doesn't get smeared unless something does the smearing,...
Yes, but you seem to mean "intentionally". Smearing is only the result of two surfaces coming together, by accident or by intent. You have assumed the latter.

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I'd suggest that the killer, having dirtied his hand(s) when he excised the colon, tried to wipe off as much as he could on the glutinous surface of the extruded bowels,...
Ah, so he should have taken a slice of bowel with him then when he ran through the streets wiping his hands....


Seriously, with all her clothing around him surely he is going to wipe his fingers on some cloth, not some wet & slippery organs.
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Yes, but you seem to mean "intentionally". Smearing is only the result of two surfaces coming together, by accident or by intent. You have assumed the latter
Think of the sequence of events, Jon. He cuts open her belly, pulls her small intestines out and drapes them over her right shoulder. He then goes into the abdomen and starts digging around, removing the uterus and kidney and, in the process, cuts out the descending colon, which is almost certainly where the faecal matter escaped. The killer then puts the section of colon on the pavement parallel with Eddowes' left flank, i.e. opposite where the killer is working. How does excrement get "accidentally" smeared over the rest of the intestines, which are not only on the near side of the killer, but pulled out and draped over Eddowes' shoulders?

Edit: On the point of accident vs intent, the operative phrase is "smeared over". A transient contact between two surfaces would surely not result in a "smearing over", but a "streaking", a "speckling" or some other passive-sounding verb.
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Seriously, with all her clothing around him surely he is going to wipe his fingers on some cloth, not some wet & slippery organs.
"Wet and slippery" is quite useful under such circumstances, otherwise soap manufacturers would have gone out of business centuries ago.
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