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    Hi all,

    We see Francis Tumblety enjoyed a cigar on occasions.

    Morning Freeman, New Brunswick, Canada, 29 September 1860
    S.B. Estey was called, and stated that Dr. Tumblety's Christian name was Francis; that he had boarded with him about thirteen weeks; that the last he saw of him was on Thursday night about 9 o'clock, when he came down stairs, lit a cigar and went out.


    There you go, Steadmund Brand!

    Sincerely,

    Mike
    The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
    http://www.michaelLhawley.com

  • #2
    Should make Steady happy.

    He was looking for someone to share a cigar with at ripper con.
    G U T

    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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    • #3
      There ya go, Must be a NY thing.. however I will not wax my moustache.. and we share no other hobbies

      see, now someone has to enjoy a Tumblety with me.. I know Howard Brown smokes ( or use to) cigarettes and pipes, not sure on cigars!

      Steadmund Brand
      "The truth is what is, and what should be is a fantasy. A terrible, terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago."- Lenny Bruce

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      • #4
        Hi Mike, Steadmund, and GUT

        A poet friend of mine here in Baltimore grew his beard long (see below) in emulation of a poet hero of his, W. D. Snodgrass -- or was it in emulation of Walt Whitman? . . . Actually it's possible that Snodgrass, a generation or two older than my friend, grew his beard long as a tribute to Whitman (also below).

        Unfortunately, Gary reported that recently he suffered an accident while lighting his cigar: he burned a big hole in that luxuriant beard. I am not able to report whether he is now clean shaven or if he was able to salvage part of his beard. In any case, it will take a while to grow it that long again!

        Cheers

        Chris





        Walt Whitman, 1887, photograph colorized by Dan Keller.
        Last edited by ChrisGeorge; 02-24-2016, 03:19 PM.
        Christopher T. George
        Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
        just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
        For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
        RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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        • #5
          Interesting, Chris. I hear Israel Schwartz said Tumblety switched to a pipe by 1888, because of his mustache being in the way!

          Mike
          The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
          http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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          • #6
            I switched when I gave up cigarettes'....god I miss them...but been 6 years now....I smoke a pipe at times but they are a pain to keep up.....plus...I love the camaraderie of a cigar shop....very relaxing and always great conversation....

            My beard is much shorter so I'm safe from that kind of accident....I hope.....

            I have my travel humidor all ready for April!!!!!

            Steadmund Brand
            "The truth is what is, and what should be is a fantasy. A terrible, terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago."- Lenny Bruce

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mklhawley View Post
              Morning Freeman, New Brunswick, Canada, 29 September 1860
              S.B. Estey was called, and stated that Dr. Tumblety's Christian name was Francis; that he had boarded with him about thirteen weeks; that the last he saw of him was on Thursday night about 9 o'clock, when he came down stairs, lit a cigar and went out.

              May have been his first and last cigar, if he was smart.

              Mike
              huh?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
                May have been his first and last cigar, if he was smart.

                Mike
                Interesting thought, Mike. Here was a person who claimed to promote health by taking into the body only healthy things, yet he was known to smoke and even have his fine ale.
                The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
                http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mklhawley View Post
                  Interesting thought, Mike. Here was a person who claimed to promote health by taking into the body only healthy things, yet he was known to smoke and even have his fine ale.
                  But in the 1880's they weren't seen as unhealthy.
                  G U T

                  There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GUT View Post
                    But in the 1880's they weren't seen as unhealthy.
                    It looks like Dr. T was against 'stale' beer in gallons. Here's his Jan 29, 1889 interview:

                    Why, they stuff themselves all day with potpies and beef and drink gallons of stale beer, keeping it up until they go to bed late at night, and then wake up the next morning heavy as lead. Why, all the English police have dyspepsia.

                    Mike
                    The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
                    http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mklhawley View Post
                      It looks like Dr. T was against 'stale' beer in gallons. Here's his Jan 29, 1889 interview:

                      Why, they stuff themselves all day with potpies and beef and drink gallons of stale beer, keeping it up until they go to bed late at night, and then wake up the next morning heavy as lead. Why, all the English police have dyspepsia.

                      Mike

                      But pints of the stale stuff or gallons of the fresh is fine.
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mklhawley View Post
                        Interesting, Chris. I hear Israel Schwartz said Tumblety switched to a pipe by 1888, because of his mustache being in the way!

                        Mike
                        It's almost a shame he didn't live long enough to smoke Prince Albert in a can. Something about that idea just pleases me... I really don't know why.
                        I’m often irrelevant. It confuses people.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shaggyrand View Post
                          It's almost a shame he didn't live long enough to smoke Prince Albert in a can. Something about that idea just pleases me... I really don't know why.
                          So close, though. He only had to live five years longer!
                          The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
                          http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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                          • #14
                            Christopher T. George
                            Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
                            just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
                            For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
                            RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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                            • #15
                              A Second Account of Cigars and Ale

                              Hi all,

                              Here's another account of Tumblety enjoying his cigars and ale, now in 1870:

                              Cincinnati Enquirer, Dec 14, 1888
                              ..."It was back in the spring of 1870," he [James Jackson] said. "when I first met Tumblety in Pittsburg. He was a tall, handsome man, excessively dignified and polite, with a military bearing. We met on the street, and after a few words he invited me to have a cigar at the Monogahela House. It was a cold, snowy evening, and, smoking our cigars, we walked down to his office. In the mean time he had introduced himself by showing me a heavy gold medal which purported to have been presented to him by the citizens of Salt Lake, Utah, for some service. The doctor carried a gold-headed cane, so heavy that it would tire our hand. Arrived at the office, he insisted on examining my physical condition. And freely gave his advice as to a line of habits which would in a few years make me a perfect specimen of manhood. I frequently called on the doctor, and we became great friends. He always had on tap at his office a barrel of ale, and we used to sit and drink until both of us were feeling somewhat jolly."


                              Sincerely,

                              Mike
                              The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
                              http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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