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  • #46
    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    So if one Dr disagrees wth other doctors, he is either right or a liar?

    Is that really your suggestion?
    Whatever happened to looking for the proverbial "second opinion"?
    Regards, Jon S.

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    • #47
      Bond was also a 'real doctor', just as Phillips and Brown were. If he was never suspected of being Jack, and it's clear he wasn't, why would he need an alibi?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
        Whatever happened to looking for the proverbial "second opinion"?
        And as most medical opinions are simply that "opinions" naturally not all are right.
        G U T

        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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        • #49
          It could simply be that as a doctor Bond took offense at any suggestion that the Ripper could be a fellow doctor. Therefore he would have been reluctant to assign any medical skills to what the killer did.

          Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

          c.d.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by c.d. View Post
            It could simply be that as a doctor Bond took offense at any suggestion that the Ripper could be a fellow doctor. Therefore he would have been reluctant to assign any medical skills to what the killer did.

            Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

            c.d.
            Could be.
            G U T

            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by c.d. View Post
              It could simply be that as a doctor Bond took offense at any suggestion that the Ripper could be a fellow doctor. Therefore he would have been reluctant to assign any medical skills to what the killer did.

              Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

              c.d.
              If this is the case then it appears he also took offence at the suggestion that a butcher could be the culprit, ruling them above suspiciion, considering the primitive hacking displayed on the bodies of the victims.

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              • #52
                An interesting side note - a very well known American company who featured heavily in the bursting of the housing market bubble which threw the American economy into a deep recession is using a rather unique legal defense in the course of litigation. They are attempting to argue that an opinion, by definition, can't really be said to be wrong. It is, as stated, simply an opinion. We'll have to see how that plays out.

                c.d.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by c.d. View Post
                  An interesting side note - a very well known American company who featured heavily in the bursting of the housing market bubble which threw the American economy into a deep recession is using a rather unique legal defense in the course of litigation. They are attempting to argue that an opinion, by definition, can't really be said to be wrong. It is, as stated, simply an opinion. We'll have to see how that plays out.

                  c.d.
                  They are both right and wrong.

                  You can only be sued over an opinion when you are being paid for it.

                  I expect they'll go down in a screaming heap, if that's the entirety of the defence,as they were being paid for the opinions they were giving out
                  G U T

                  There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                  • #54
                    I would suspect that someone of bonds stature would not have to take the risk of killing and mutilating out on the streets.
                    "Is all that we see or seem
                    but a dream within a dream?"

                    -Edgar Allan Poe


                    "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                    quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                    -Frederick G. Abberline

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                    • #55
                      I once had a philosophy teacher saying that science is the opposite of opinion.
                      Is it progress when a cannibal uses a fork?
                      - Stanislaw Jerzy Lee

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                      • #56
                        His 'opinion' is based on the other doctors work.It's not possible to come to that conclusion truthfully.Take another look at the Mylett case,what is most likely,a garotting or a dodgy collar?Look at the Chipperfield case under the Bond being Bond thread. Riding roughshod over other doctors opinions is part of his MO,it would seem.If his TOD for Kelly is accepted who does it point to?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Rosella View Post
                          Thomas Bond was born in 1841, which would make him forty seven at the time of the Ripper kilings, a bit elderly for Jack, surely?
                          Nope.

                          Jack was 53.
                          Last edited by DJA; 12-17-2015, 03:37 AM. Reason: Clearer.
                          My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by elmore 77 View Post
                            His 'opinion' is based on the other doctors work.It's not possible to come to that conclusion truthfully.Take another look at the Mylett case,what is most likely,a garotting or a dodgy collar?Look at the Chipperfield case under the Bond being Bond thread. Riding roughshod over other doctors opinions is part of his MO,it would seem.If his TOD for Kelly is accepted who does it point to?
                            Hi Elmore
                            why would someone of Bonds stature have to take the risk to kill and mutilate on the streets? Surely someone with his werewithall could have done It in a private location? No?
                            "Is all that we see or seem
                            but a dream within a dream?"

                            -Edgar Allan Poe


                            "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                            quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                            -Frederick G. Abberline

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                            • #59
                              Hello GUT,

                              Even if you are being paid, it is still an opinion is it not?

                              c.d.

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                              • #60
                                Hello Elmore,

                                It is common nowadays to have trials where both sides present expert witnesses all of whom have impeccable credentials and who come to completely different conclusions. It doesn't necessarily imply that someone is lying. They are simply giving their opinions.

                                You seem to be concluding that Bond was lying simply because you don't agree with his opinions.

                                c.d.

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