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Old 03-07-2008, 05:59 PM
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Hi All,

I think this has been mentioned before on a lost thread, but it's still nonetheless interesting—from The Times, Feb 29th 1896.

A Dover seaside convalescent home founded in 1882 for, among others, City of London policeman.

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Thanks Simon. Very nice post.

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Hi Simon,
I found this interesting too, I have a few bits about it that I looked at last year, checking the census entries etc to see how many City Police were actually resident there prior to the permanent wing they had built in the 1890's.
I still had this pic on my comp. too so thought I may as well post it, I've lost the reference for the date and newspaper source though.
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With regard to the Hove Seaside home the page below might be of interest:

http://www.stgeorgesharrogate.org/stg01gurney.htm
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Thats not far from my neck of the woods, Harrogate was a popular destination for camping, hikking, mountain bikking and canoiing as kids.

Didn't teach us how to spell though!!

This ite might be of intrest,

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hitch/gendocs/police.html
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Hi All,

Great finds, one and all.

This is from "The Climates and Baths of Great Britain" (1895) —

"Patients convalescing after operations, and suffering from the debility consequent on fevers, do remarkably well at the Morley Convalescent Home."

Let's spice things up with a bit of Royal conspiracy (only kidding!).

This is from "The Nursing Record Hospital World Supplement" (Sept 7th 1893)—

"The Queen has presented an engraving of her full length portrait, with her Majesty's autograph, to the Morley Convalescent Home (Dover). The Committee have had the work handsomely framed and hung in the day-room of the new wing."

And who do we find at a Morley House meeting at the Guildhall, on Saturday, June 6th 1891?

None other than our old friend Colonel Henry Smith "(Chief Commissioner, City Police, a certain number of the beds being reserved for the force.)"—see attachment, The Times, June 8th 1891.

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Hi All,

Swanson wrote in his marginalia about a Seaside Home where Kosminski was sent with "difficulty."

I have always wondered what that "difficulty" might have been, and so I offer you this thought.

If Swanson's Seaside Home was Morley House, Dover—with beds reserved for the City Police—could the "difficulty" have been the Metropolitan Police attempting the identification without alerting the City Police to the fact they had a suspect?

As I say, it's just a thought.

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Good thoughts, Simon, and my thanks for reviving this subject.
But I think the problem we do face is that everyone automatically assumes that Swanson was referring to a 'police' convalescent home, when he wasn't, he was referring to a 'Seaside Home'... so there might well be no police connection at all.
That it was connected to the police - City or otherwise - is an assumption.

My own connective mind suggests to me that the fact that Thomas Cutbush's relatives were prone to send young Thomas down to Margate whenever he was in trouble would seem to indicate that the various Seaside Homes at Margate for the convalescence of Londoners might be more profitable in this regard.
My money is on this.
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That's the type of thought I had Simon that made me want to look closer at Morley House, that, or maybe that the 'city P.C. witness' mistake might not have been a mistake...just thoughts though, as you say...

Here's the census address of the home btw, it's a bit different to the newspaper address:

Convalescent Home, Rose Bank, St Margaret At Cliffe, West Cliffe, Dover

Charles Bray was the master of the home in 1891, I can't find what I had found out for 1881. In looking for occassional City Police use prior to them getting their own wing there in the 90's I could only find one P.C. in 1891, Charles Anoot(?) I never did find out which force he belonged to though.


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Another link about the Hove Seaside Home:

http://www.npch.org/history2.htm
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