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Old 09-05-2017, 10:56 AM
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DJA - "Turned up in the 1881 Census being treated for VD".

Not sure I follow this though.
You will find her in the 1881 census.
She was,by memory,bring treated for syphilis.
Topic of conversation some years back.
Can't put my hands on it for the moment.
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Well I do have a Mary Kelly who in the 1881 census was in the "Infirmary of The Whitechapel Union" Bakers Row. She is aged 23 (so born around 1858) and her place of birth Whitechapel. Occupation is shown as prostitute. Obviously it isn't possible to tell why she is in there so there must also be an admission/discharge record which might possibly show a home address. Hard to say, otherwise, whether this is the Shoreditch Mary Ann Kelly (and birth year and place of birth potentially are slightly different).
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Census was 3rd April.
My Mary was still 21.
Possibly the same person though.
Church of England?
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It's not possible to tell religion from the census report.

I believe, however, that the Shoreditch Kellys were C of E since the children, including Mary Ann were baptised at St Leonard's. I have a birth date of 27th April 1859 and baptism date of 22nd May 1859 for this Mary Ann Kelly..
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I started looking at these kellys a while back and recorded the following.
Little bit more to come yet....Pat
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A little bit more.....But please ignore the John and Louisa at the very end as I now think its the wrong john....Pat
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That is the son,Jno,at 33 Turville Street.
Almost on the corner of Old Nichol Street.

Brilliant.

Thanks to both of you.
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Well I do have a Mary Kelly who in the 1881 census was in the "Infirmary of The Whitechapel Union" Bakers Row. She is aged 23 (so born around 1858) and her place of birth Whitechapel. Occupation is shown as prostitute. Obviously it isn't possible to tell why she is in there so there must also be an admission/discharge record which might possibly show a home address. Hard to say, otherwise, whether this is the Shoreditch Mary Ann Kelly (and birth year and place of birth potentially are slightly different).
Date of admission was 16 March 1881 from Castle Alley.
Single prostitute.
Syphilis
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Discharged 26 April 1881.
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I started looking at these kellys a while back and recorded the following.
Little bit more to come yet....Pat
Wondered where I got it from

Brilliant mate!
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Although the Place of Birth shows as Whitechapel, I wouldn't necessarily discount this on a census taken at somewhere like the Whitechapel Infirmary. My thinking is that it's unlikely the person completing the return went round every inmate getting accurate details and so probably made an educated guess in some cases. Shouldn't have done so obviously, but human nature being what it is...
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