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    Police reinforcements

    In 1887 H Division had 1 Supt, 30 Insps, 46 Sgts, 473 Constables and J Division had 1 Supt, 38 Insps, 56 Sgts and 522 Constables.
    The first batch of police reinforcements from other divisions appear to have been dispatched to the district (H & J divisions) following the murder of Annie Chapman, (this `special detection force` being 3 Insps 9 Sgts and 6 Constables on the 8th September this being increased to 51 in October and another 28 employed to carry out the house to house searches) it should also be noted that 120 Constables (and the relevant number of Sgts) of H division were deployed on night duty of these 43 came from a special augmentation from H division men and 77 had been supplied nightly from other divisions) , PC Alfred LONG of A Division is an example. (It would be interesting to know whether the same 77 men were supplied by each division or whether different men were used nightly?)
    Following the double event, one of the first things Sir Charles WARREN, did was to draft additional extra men to the district, from other divisions. An example of one of these men is PC Frederick Porter WENSLEY of L Division (he'd only been in uniform 9 months at the time).
    It appears that `hundreds` of officers were drafted and usually patrolled in pairs (27 men are certainly documented as being employed in plain clothes work at this time, this being increased to 89 in October and 143 in November, being reduced to 102 in January and 47 in February 1889, what is unclear is whether these men went purely to H division or J division as well- and one would assume that J divisions share would have been dispatched purely to Bethnal Green and not other locations within J division?).
    It appears that these men involved in both plain clothes and uniformed work. These resources begin to be reduced in both H & J divisions in February 1889 (in December 1888 their numbers appear to be 1 Insps, 9 Sgts and 126 Constables), these men appear to have come from other divisions, worked constant night shifts and were coming from some distance away (which they had to pay for at their own expense).
    These additional men had been ceased by March 1889. In July 1889 following the murder or Alice McKENZIE it was amused that the Ripper had resumed his killings so the men and patrols , (these being 3 Sgts 39 Constables in plain clothes and 22 extra men in uniform). Two months later following the discovery of the Pinchin Street torso, an additional 100 plain clothes men were drafted in, these continued until April 1890 when they finally ceased. These officer numbers mainly relate to plain clothes officers drafted in, there were also uniformed officers drafted in, but there is very little documented about there numbers, all that I have been able to confirm is that when the plain clothes patrols were disbanded 34 uniformed officers originally detailed for patrols in Trafalgar Square (A division) remained in Whitechapel and were still there in the summer of 1889.

  • #2
    Interesting, PC, especially as it appears that large numbers of men were still being drafted into the East End months after, according to various theories, senior police officials knew that the Ripper had been incarcerated in a mental institution or was dead.

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    • #3
      I've read that as well Rosella, however, this information seems to dispel this theory. From what I've uncovered the only reason why the men were withdrawn was purely due to financial reasons. Interesting on this very forum is a list of men known to have been involved in these reinforcements. I'm sure they'll be other examples that other forum users have come across whilst researching medals in their collections.

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      • #4
        Police Orders—Saturday, 29th September 1888

        The following are authorised to be employed in plain clothes, with an allowance of 2s 6d per week from to 31st March next. They will be employed as directed by the Superintendents for the prevention and detection of crime during the winter months.

        H 57 - Dennis (Times Aug 2nd 1888)
        H 207 - Frederick King (Times Oct 24th 1888)
        H 286 - Wright (Times Oct 9th 1888)
        H 373 - Fluister
        (NOTE: There was also a Detective Sergeant Fluister of the City Police—Times Feb 3rd 1885, a PC Fluister 954 City—Times 15th Jan 1889, and a Detective Inspector Fluister—Times Jan 21st 1891)
        H 378 - West
        H 32R - Soper (Times Dec 14th 1887)

        H DIVISION PLAIN CLOTHES DUTY - as from October 1st 1888

        Divisional Inspector Pimley

        H DIVISION PLAIN CLOTHES DUTY - from October 10th to 13th (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat) and 15th to 19th (Mon/Tue/Wed/Thu/Fri) 1888

        PC 27HR Gulley
        PC 145 Shea

        H DIVISION PLAIN CLOTHES DUTY - as from October 24th 1888

        Sergeant 21 Herwin
        PC 24HR Beaks
        PC 91 Patrick
        PC 137 Long
        PC 234 Wing
        PC 436 Hawke
        PC 73 Mitchell
        PC 246 Bird
        PC H296 Winter (Times—Aug 30th 1886)
        PC 364 Dixon
        PC 36HR Chapman
        PC 49HR Layton
        PC 284 Lamerton
        PC 362 Davis
        PC H117 Brown (Times—Sep 16th 1886)
        PC 33HR Warren
        PC 41HR Miles
        PC 393 Hoare
        PC 169 Boon
        PC 70 Gregory
        Transfers to H Division—Police Orders 31st October 1888

        From B Division [Chelsea]

        B344 to H220 PC 61146 [1st Class] Charles Maguire*
        B435 to H295 PC 73700 [3rd Class] Cornelius Lamb

        From F Division [Paddington]

        F103 to H442 PC 67236 [2nd Class] George Farr
        F288 to H463 PC 73773 [3rd Class] Edwin Sturt*

        From K Division [Bow]

        K216 to H464 PC 73337 [3rd Class] Joseph Bozzett

        From S Division [Hampstead]

        S633 to H465 PC 57839 [1st Class] Henry Kirby
        S554 to H466 PC 73748 [3rd Class] Henry S. C. Barber
        S172 to H502 PC 73849 [3rd Class] George Bailey

        From T Division [Hammersmith]
        T650 to H467 PC 66443 [2nd Class] Arthur Vincent
        T510 to H468 PC 68788 [2nd Class] William A. Walker
        T602 to H469 PC 70694 [3rd Class] Frederick Lessons
        T372 to H470 PC 71125 [3rd Class] William J. Rough
        T621 to H471 PC 72933 [3rd Class] William H. Saundery
        T250 to H472 PC 73033 [3rd Class] Thomas Jefferson
        T651 to H473 PC 73631 [3rd Class] Arthur Waters
        T652 to H474 PC 73636 [3rd Class] Albert A. Truelove
        T671 to H475 PC 73682 [3rd Class] George Evans
        T674 to H476 PC 73715 [3rd Class] Robert Vickers
        T680 to H477 PC 73736 [3rd Class] Harry Roffey
        T181 to H478 PC 73744 [3rd Class] William J. Gunner
        T687 to H479 PC 73764 [3rd Class] William Lewis*
        T688 to H480 PC 73769 [3rd Class] Griffith Evans*
        T236 to H481 PC 73777 [3rd Class] George Crews
        T668 to H482 PC 73778 [3rd Class] Michael Waters
        T465 to H483 PC 73785 [3rd Class] Thomas T. Guppy
        T679 to H484 PC 73793 [3rd Class] Benjamin C. Ide
        T279 to H485 PC 73813 [3rd Class] George M. Ide

        From V Division [Wandsworth]

        V198 to H486 PC 73442 [3rd Class] William L. Dockery
        V585 to H487 PC 59272 [3rd Class] Patrick Rourke
        V575 to H488 PC 62860 [2nd Class] Henry Worman
        V548 to H489 PC 63165 [1st Class] Edward Ware
        V464 to H490 PC 68841 [3rd Class] John Molt
        V212 to H491 PC 73016 [3rd Class] Henry Hancock

        From X Division [Kilburn]

        X479 to H492 PC 67612 [2nd Class] Nicholas Stafford
        X478 to H493 PC 72182 [3rd Class] Michael Hudson
        [H494 was not assigned at this time]
        X463 to H495 PC 73635 [3rd Class] Harry Artiss
        X316 to H496 PC 73906 [3rd Class] Charles Phillips*

        From Y Division [Highgate]

        Y 91 to H497 PC 73685 [3rd Class] Thomas C. Newens
        Y401 to H498 PC 73695 [3rd Class] Harry Gibson
        Y181 to H499 PC 73721 [3rd Class] John Presswood
        Y199 to H500 PC 73834 [3rd Class] John Hamilton
        Y624 to H501 PC 73883 [3rd Class] John Garraway

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        • #5
          Police Orders—Saturday, 29th September 1888

          The following are authorised to be employed in plain clothes, with an allowance of 2s 6d per week from to 31st March next. They will be employed as directed by the Superintendents for the prevention and detection of crime during the winter months.

          H 57 - Dennis (Times Aug 2nd 1888)
          H 207 - Frederick King (Times Oct 24th 1888)
          H 286 - Wright (Times Oct 9th 1888)
          H 373 - Fluister
          (NOTE: There was also a Detective Sergeant Fluister of the City Police—Times Feb 3rd 1885, a PC Fluister 954 City—Times 15th Jan 1889, and a Detective Inspector Fluister—Times Jan 21st 1891)
          H 378 - West
          H 32R - Soper (Times Dec 14th 1887)

          H DIVISION PLAIN CLOTHES DUTY - as from October 1st 1888

          Divisional Inspector Pimley

          H DIVISION PLAIN CLOTHES DUTY - from October 10th to 13th (Wed/Thu/Fri/Sat) and 15th to 19th (Mon/Tue/Wed/Thu/Fri) 1888

          PC 27HR Gulley
          PC 145 Shea

          H DIVISION PLAIN CLOTHES DUTY - as from October 24th 1888

          Sergeant 21 Herwin
          PC 24HR Beaks
          PC 91 Patrick
          PC 137 Long
          PC 234 Wing
          PC 436 Hawke
          PC 73 Mitchell
          PC 246 Bird
          PC H296 Winter (Times—Aug 30th 1886)
          PC 364 Dixon
          PC 36HR Chapman
          PC 49HR Layton
          PC 284 Lamerton
          PC 362 Davis
          PC H117 Brown (Times—Sep 16th 1886)
          PC 33HR Warren
          PC 41HR Miles
          PC 393 Hoare
          PC 169 Boon
          PC 70 Gregory

          Transfers to H Division—Police Orders 31st October 1888

          From B Division [Chelsea]

          B344 to H220 PC 61146 [1st Class] Charles Maguire*
          B435 to H295 PC 73700 [3rd Class] Cornelius Lamb

          From F Division [Paddington]

          F103 to H442 PC 67236 [2nd Class] George Farr
          F288 to H463 PC 73773 [3rd Class] Edwin Sturt*

          From K Division [Bow]

          K216 to H464 PC 73337 [3rd Class] Joseph Bozzett

          From S Division [Hampstead]

          S633 to H465 PC 57839 [1st Class] Henry Kirby
          S554 to H466 PC 73748 [3rd Class] Henry S. C. Barber
          S172 to H502 PC 73849 [3rd Class] George Bailey

          From T Division [Hammersmith]
          T650 to H467 PC 66443 [2nd Class] Arthur Vincent
          T510 to H468 PC 68788 [2nd Class] William A. Walker
          T602 to H469 PC 70694 [3rd Class] Frederick Lessons
          T372 to H470 PC 71125 [3rd Class] William J. Rough
          T621 to H471 PC 72933 [3rd Class] William H. Saundery
          T250 to H472 PC 73033 [3rd Class] Thomas Jefferson
          T651 to H473 PC 73631 [3rd Class] Arthur Waters
          T652 to H474 PC 73636 [3rd Class] Albert A. Truelove
          T671 to H475 PC 73682 [3rd Class] George Evans
          T674 to H476 PC 73715 [3rd Class] Robert Vickers
          T680 to H477 PC 73736 [3rd Class] Harry Roffey
          T181 to H478 PC 73744 [3rd Class] William J. Gunner
          T687 to H479 PC 73764 [3rd Class] William Lewis*
          T688 to H480 PC 73769 [3rd Class] Griffith Evans*
          T236 to H481 PC 73777 [3rd Class] George Crews
          T668 to H482 PC 73778 [3rd Class] Michael Waters
          T465 to H483 PC 73785 [3rd Class] Thomas T. Guppy
          T679 to H484 PC 73793 [3rd Class] Benjamin C. Ide
          T279 to H485 PC 73813 [3rd Class] George M. Ide

          From V Division [Wandsworth]

          V198 to H486 PC 73442 [3rd Class] William L. Dockery
          V585 to H487 PC 59272 [3rd Class] Patrick Rourke
          V575 to H488 PC 62860 [2nd Class] Henry Worman
          V548 to H489 PC 63165 [1st Class] Edward Ware
          V464 to H490 PC 68841 [3rd Class] John Molt
          V212 to H491 PC 73016 [3rd Class] Henry Hancock

          From X Division [Kilburn]

          X479 to H492 PC 67612 [2nd Class] Nicholas Stafford
          X478 to H493 PC 72182 [3rd Class] Michael Hudson
          [H494 was not assigned at this time]
          X463 to H495 PC 73635 [3rd Class] Harry Artiss
          X316 to H496 PC 73906 [3rd Class] Charles Phillips*

          From Y Division [Highgate]

          Y 91 to H497 PC 73685 [3rd Class] Thomas C. Newens
          Y401 to H498 PC 73695 [3rd Class] Harry Gibson
          Y181 to H499 PC 73721 [3rd Class] John Presswood
          Y199 to H500 PC 73834 [3rd Class] John Hamilton
          Y624 to H501 PC 73883 [3rd Class] John Garraway

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          • #6
            Hi PC2267,

            You could have saved yourself a whole lot of bother and bandwidth by simply posting this link - http://www.casebook.org/dissertation...personnel.html

            Regards,

            Simon
            Last edited by Simon Wood; 01-05-2016, 10:31 AM. Reason: spolling mistook
            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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            • #7
              From what I've uncovered the only reason why the men were withdrawn was purely due to financial reasons.
              And probably also practical operational ones. The removal of officers from other Divisions to reinforce 'H' and 'J' Divisions could not be continued indefinitely without serious detrimental effect on the policing of those areas.
              I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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              • #8
                It would be interesting to know, putting the Insps & Sgts aside for one minute, whether the bobbies supplied for the takes of both plain clothes and uniformed patrols, given the apparent mundane nature and constant night shifts, where made up of men young in service, or whether seasoned and experienced officers were used or a mixture of the both? PC WENSLEY certainly falls into the young in service category. I further wonder whether the conduct of officers sent came into consideration, a way perhaps of getting rid of `problem` officers (whom they hadn't been able to post perminantly to other divisions), if only for a short time. PC LONG certainly appears to have had a colourful career after the Whitechapel murders, but what about his service before?

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                • #9
                  PC Alfred Long did serve in the 9th Lancers for twelve years without getting into trouble, though. He even got a Distinguished Conduct Medal. Yes, he was discharged from the Met for drunkenness, but he wasn't alone in that!

                  As far as other Divisions getting rid of their not so great performers to H Division in 1888, I suppose it would be only human for Duty Sergeants and above to try and offload them. They surely wouldn't have had that many unsatisfactory police officers, though.
                  I suspect that there may have been a mix involved, with perhaps the young and callow 'sacrificed' first and then a few with experience that could be spared. I can imagine there would be a fair amount of grumbling and exasperation by both those who had to go to H Division and those who sent them. After all, crime didn't stop all over London just because a serial killer was active in a tiny corner of it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rosella View Post
                    PC Alfred Long did serve in the 9th Lancers for twelve years without getting into trouble, though. He even got a Distinguished Conduct Medal. Yes, he was discharged from the Met for drunkenness, but he wasn't alone in that!
                    Anything could have happened in PC Long's life to turn him to drink after the Eddowes case, so what he did after has no bearing on his condition at the time of the murder. Only if he was known as a drinker before the murder case might there be some justification for criticism.

                    The Station House canteen served light ale to all constables as a refreshment, the thinking was it would keep them out of the public houses.
                    We know constables were dismissed due to drinking problems, but not everyone appreciates how readily ale was available to them, even at the Station House.
                    Regards, Jon S.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rosella View Post
                      PC Alfred Long did serve in the 9th Lancers for twelve years without getting into trouble, though. He even got a Distinguished Conduct Medal. Yes, he was discharged from the Met for drunkenness, but he wasn't alone in that!

                      As far as other Divisions getting rid of their not so great performers to H Division in 1888, I suppose it would be only human for Duty Sergeants and above to try and offload them. They surely wouldn't have had that many unsatisfactory police officers, though.
                      I suspect that there may have been a mix involved, with perhaps the young and callow 'sacrificed' first and then a few with experience that could be spared. I can imagine there would be a fair amount of grumbling and exasperation by both those who had to go to H Division and those who sent them. After all, crime didn't stop all over London just because a serial killer was active in a tiny corner of it.



                      Firstly I appear to have done PC LONG a grave disservice and for that I apologise, I believe that I have got him confused with PC WATKINS of the City Police.

                      Secondly, with regards to the reinforcements, I can hear the grumbling across the voids of time :-). I can well imagine the probationers being sent first (the men from A Division, being a perfect example, which I had over looked). I further imagine the genuine fear in those posted to H Division from some cushy part of another Division......

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                      • #12
                        It would be interesting to know whether any officers, seconded to Whitechapel from other divisions, became involved in cases/arrests not linked to "Jack", but subsequently lead to court cases, whereby they gave evidence as under their own divisional number but clearly were operating in out of their divisional area in H/J division. Has anyone ever come across such circumstances?

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                        • #13
                          Echo
                          London, U.K.
                          21 September 1888

                          EAST END MURDERS
                          THE POLICEMEN'S NIGHT BEATS
                          THE PRESENT PRECAUTIONS
                          A Correspondent has obtained exact details of those police beats covering the area within which the Buck's row murder was committed. From this it will be seen that the murderer had no doubt a considerable time in which he was quite sure of being undisturbed by a police constable, assuming he knew the beats. It seems that, notwithstanding the frequent repetition of murders round Whitechapel, under circumstances leading to the conclusion that they were the work of one man, not one single extra police officer was put upon the ground until after the commission of the fourth and last murder. Then the streets were filled night and by by police in and out of uniform.

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