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But not coming from a reliable source.
One could say the mythical source of monro's lost notes, and they must stay that way unless found must they not?

however an interesting phrase which you obviously used for a reason.

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Hi Jeff,

This dissertation might help: http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/dst-emily.html
Hi John G.

Thank you for pointing me to that dissertation. I don't recall if I read it when it was first put up.

Hi Pierre,

I see no reason to not keep the connection with Druitt in one's mind. In a case like this any type of connection is worth consideration.

The reason that I made my comment about "Crawford" is that in 1881 there was a notorious incident involving Lord Crawford's family. The then current Earl of Crawford had died, and his body was stolen from the family vault. Eventually it was recovered, but there never was any clear-cut explanation of the theft of the body. There was an arrest, but I believe the man was acquitted or if convicted it was on some minor charge. In the course of the investigation a dog was used to try to track the corpse or the perpetrators - the same dog that had been used in tracking down the child murderer William Fish in Blackburn in 1876.

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Sweet violets, sweeter than all the roses,
Ladened with fragrance, sparkling with the dew,
Sweet violets, from mossy dell and rivulet
Zillah, darling one, I plucked them, my darling, for you.

Oh, stay! go not away,
Violets are blooming love for you alone.
Oh! sweet violets, sweeter than all the roses,
Zillah, darling one, I plucked them and brought them for you.

Sweet violets, resting in beauty's bower,
Crouched all unnoticed I did pluck that flower,
Sweet violets, looking up to Heaven,
Zillah, darling one, I plucked them and brought them for you.
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Hi John G.

Thank you for pointing me to that dissertation. I don't recall if I read it when it was first put up.

Hi Pierre,

I see no reason to not keep the connection with Druitt in one's mind. In a case like this any type of connection is worth consideration.

The reason that I made my comment about "Crawford" is that in 1881 there was a notorious incident involving Lord Crawford's family. The then current Earl of Crawford had died, and his body was stolen from the family vault. Eventually it was recovered, but there never was any clear-cut explanation of the theft of the body. There was an arrest, but I believe the man was acquitted or if convicted it was on some minor charge. In the course of the investigation a dog was used to try to track the corpse or the perpetrators - the same dog that had been used in tracking down the child murderer William Fish in Blackburn in 1876.

Jeff
Hi Jeff,

Yes, I have read about that.

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Havent had time to read but the first few pages of this, but in 1988 The Globe and Mail of Toronto reported that Kit Watkins was told by Elizabeth Prater about the singing.
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The lyrics of Sweet Violets were published in the Pall Mall Gazette 10 November 1888.

This song was not the song described by Cox. It was not described as having been heard at the same point in time as the song heard by Cox.

Did Kelly even sing it?

Who was "a woman", telling the press that this song was sung by Kelly?

Why did the press get the information of this song?

What do the contents of the song mean from the perspective of the song itself?

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I agree with this as a description.

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I agree with this as a description.

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Except it's not a description.
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