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  • 1888 Met Police whistle ( Comercial St )

    Hello fellow Ripper Historians . On a recent jaunt into Whitechapel I was fortunate enough to stumble upon this fine artifact , A friend of mine who has an antique stool in Spitalfields antique market had just that morning been given an old box listed as local artifacts , containing plates , cutlery and various other pieces . Sitting in the bottom was this old chestnut .. an 1888, 13 Bar street manufactured, metropolitan Police whistle . I was meeting Ed Stow in the Ten Bells , and after checking it out on line , he confirmed it as the real deal . Now I am not alleging that this whistle and its haunting tone , was at one time in hot pursuit of Jack the Ripper , but given its local provenance and its historically accurate date , I cannot tell you that it was not .
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  • #2
    Excellent Moonbegger,

    The address indicates a late 1888 - 1909 make. Can I ask, is there a serial number on it?

    Monty
    Monty

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    Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Monty View Post
      Excellent Moonbegger,

      The address indicates a late 1888 - 1909 make. Can I ask, is there a serial number on it?

      Monty
      Hello Monty , I cannot find a serial number .. where would it sit ?

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      • #4
        At the bottom, near the mouthpiece.

        Monty
        Monty

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        Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

        http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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        • #5
          No , not that I can make out , and definitely nothing as prominent as the markings on either side ..

          moonbegger .

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          • #6
            Ok,

            Well its not unusual for them not to have serial numbers. However it must be noted that 'The Metropolitan' whistle was not exclusive to the police. It was available commercially, with the most common purchasers being nightwatchmen.

            That said, it looks of the era to me. The scalloped chain loop being a big pointer. Hudson operated at 13 Barr St between 1888 and 1909, and the writing stamp matches 1888-1899, though I've seen slightly different fonts.

            All in all, looks good to me. Nice find.

            Monty
            Monty

            https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

            Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

            http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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            • #7
              Nice find, police and/or ripper related or not.
              G U T

              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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              • #8
                This is my Grandfather's Police whistle.

                The embossing reads:

                J. Hudson & Co.
                Birmingham
                1915



                There is a Patent No. at the top end, beneath the ring.

                Patent 5727.08

                Most of my family, on my father's side were either military or police.
                Regards, Jon S.

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                • #9
                  Nice one Jon .. I also have a possible City of London Police whistle , I think its dated around 1935 .. it reads , The ACMECity , Whistle , England . again there is no serial number Monty .

                  moonbegger

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
                    This is my Grandfather's Police whistle.

                    The embossing reads:

                    J. Hudson & Co.
                    Birmingham
                    1915



                    There is a Patent No. at the top end, beneath the ring.

                    Patent 5727.08

                    Most of my family, on my father's side were either military or police.
                    Pretty special Jon being your grandfathers.
                    G U T

                    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                    • #11
                      Very pleased to see this thread, as I picked this up at a trash and treasure stall for a couple of dollars about a month ago. Thing that impressed me most is just how loud it is.
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                      dustymiller
                      aka drstrange

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                      • #12
                        Wow they are everywhere.
                        G U T

                        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                        • #13
                          My dad had a matching one from when he was in the RAF Police in the 50/60s. Along with a long, thin, silent (to us) whistle for calling his police dog. When I was a kid I was always blowing it just to watch the dog tilt his head and look at me.

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                          • #14
                            Hi Jon,
                            Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
                            This is my Grandfather's Police whistle.

                            The embossing reads:

                            J. Hudson & Co.
                            Birmingham
                            1915



                            There is a Patent No. at the top end, beneath the ring.

                            Patent 5727.08

                            Most of my family, on my father's side were either military or police.
                            Beautiful, what a wonderful family heirloom!
                            I hope whomever inherits it from you will proudly value both its public and personal histories as much as you.
                            Regards,
                            MacGuffin
                            --------------------
                            "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MacGuffin View Post
                              Hi Jon,

                              Beautiful, what a wonderful family heirloom!
                              I hope whomever inherits it from you will proudly value both its public and personal histories as much as you.
                              Hi MacGuffin.
                              Quite so, and I didn't even know it existed until 6 years ago, when my father passed away. He had a small box secreted away at the back of an old chest of drawers. My mother told me this was his box of memorabilia, inside an assortment of personal things, an old watch, some badges, a wallet-sized photo album with some wrinkled pics of all his Army buddies, and this whistle.

                              It was my mother who told me, that he had told her, it was his father's police whistle.
                              My Grandfather had been invalided out of the force, being shot while making an arrest. He still made the arrest apparently, but after convalescing, they struck him off on medical grounds.

                              My Great-Grandfather was also in the police, and one family member was a Detective, apart from being told he emigrated to the US, I know nothing else about him.
                              Regards, Jon S.

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