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Old 02-17-2008, 01:03 AM
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One only has to see the various descriptions of the Ripper to see that he could only have been a hairdresser or actor with access to hair dyes to make him look dark and fair haired. One only has to see the words "Mr. Nobody" on a Ripper telegram to know that Sickert, who's screen name was "Mr. Nobody" during his acting days, must've written one or more of the Ripper letters. Being an actor with quick change, make-up, and hair dying experience would've made it possible for him to be both dark and fair haired. Sickert's focus on hurting women in his drawings and paintings is icing on the cake. All of that combined can only mean that Sickert, the only Ripper suspect that was nicknamed "Mr. Nobody" with the necessary hair dying skills, was Jack the Ripper. One fails to see how it could be otherwise!

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Old 02-17-2008, 01:08 AM
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One only has to see the various descriptions of the Ripper to see that he could only have been a hairdresser or actor with access to hair dyes to make him look dark and fair haired. One only has to see the words "Mr. Nobody" on a Ripper telegram to know that Sickert, who's screen name was "Mr. Nobody" during his acting days, must've written one or more of the Ripper letters. Being an actor with quick change, make-up, and hair dying experience would've made it possible for him to be both dark and fair haired. Sickert's focus on hurting women in his drawings and paintings is icing on the cake. All of that combined can only mean that Sickert, the only Ripper suspect that was nicknamed "Mr. Nobody" with the necessary hair dying skills, was Jack the Ripper. One fails to see how it could be otherwise!
Unless Walter was in France at the time!

Having a fistula does not make one a serial killer either.
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:10 AM
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Unless Walter was in France at the time!
It would've been relatively easy to return to England, commit a Ripper murder, and return to France with none the wiser. What's your proof that he didn't do that? In the end, he's the only Ripper suspect with hair dying skills and the necessary nickname. Period!

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Must have been a fast ferry between the murder of Stride and Eddowes

If this was the case why has no passenger manifesto been discovered to prove his trips back and forth?

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Old 02-17-2008, 01:16 AM
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Must have been a fast ferry between the murder of Stride and Eddowes

If this was the case why has no passenger manifesto been discovered to prove his trips back and forth?

Mike
A ferry would only be needed before and after not in-between (i.e., fascitiousness isn't conducive to civil dialogue). A passenger manifesto, given the fact that an alias could've been used, is irrelevant.
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:23 AM
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Explain then why the murders stopped?
If Sickert was the ripper and was in the East End surely his bloodlust would have continued and he would have killed more??

Patricia Cornwell's book is full of holes and errors, her millions of dollars proved that he may have written one of the letters but there is no evidence he was the ripper.

Finally if Sickert was the ripper and was so clever to outsmart the police, why toddle off home and paint the alleged scene of the crime??

A passanger manifesto would prove conclusively that he was either here or there so is more than pertinant to your theory.

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Old 02-17-2008, 01:24 AM
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Any idiot could have dyed his hair (it's not rocket science), and there's no good reason to think the killer actually did dye his hair.

Similarly, there were a great many letters written and no good reason to think any of them were from the killer, and especially not the Mr. Nobody message.

Considering that there is strong evidence that he was in France for most of the murders of the Macnaghten Five and no evidence that he was anywhere else, it's pretty self-serving to say he could have gone to England. Lots of people can't be ruled out for doing all sorts of things. We have to go where the evidence takes us, not ignore evidence in favor of completely baseless speculation.
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Explain then why the murders stopped?...Finally if Sickert was the ripper and was so clever to outsmart the police, why toddle off home and paint the alleged scene of the crime??Mike
Killers stop killing all the time. It wouldn't be the first recorded instance of that happening. His paintings occurred after the Ripper murder series and for profit or the same reason he sent Ripper telegrams, postcards, and letters, namely, arrogance and having fun.

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Any idiot could have dyed his hair (it's not rocket science), and there's no good reason to think the killer actually did dye his hair.

Similarly, there were a great many letters written and no good reason to think any of them were from the killer, and especially not the Mr. Nobody message.

Considering that there is strong evidence that he was in France for most of the murders of the Macnaghten Five and no evidence that he was anywhere else, it's pretty self-serving to say he could have gone to England. Lots of people can't be ruled out for doing all sorts of things. We have to go where the evidence takes us, not ignore evidence in favor of completely baseless speculation.
Any idiot can dye their hair today because, it's quite common and easy though such wasn't the case back then. They couldn't afford it and thereby didn't know how to do it! The fact that Sickert could afford it and knew how to do it is relevant. One has to wonder also how a single killer can be both dark and fair haired without hair dyes. Lastly, only Sickert can be shown to have referred to himself as Mr. Nobody, no other Ripper suspect can say that! Period!

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Any idiot can dye their hair today because, it's quite common and easy though such wasn't the case back then. They couldn't afford it and thereby didn't know how to do it! The fact that Sickert could afford it and knew how to do it is relevant. One has to wonder also how a single killer can be both dark and fair haired without hair dyes. Lastly, only Sickert can be shown to have referred to himself as Mr. Nobody, no other Ripper suspect can say that! Period!
First, being able to afford hair dye is no guarantee that someone knows how to do it and vice-versa. Second, eyewitness testimony is fallible. Third, given the number of letters the police got from people claiming to be the killer, the vast majority (if not all) are probably hoaxes.
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