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Old 06-03-2017, 12:19 PM
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Hi David,

That was an interesting piece about W.T. Madge, of The People.

Here's the same story by H. Simonis—Street of Ink, 1917

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And an excerpt from his obituary in The Times.

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Thanks Simon, so how does that affect your theory (if I may be so bold to describe it as such) that it was the police who deliberately promulgated the notion of the double murders being committed by the same person?
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Hi David,

It doesn't.

But thanks for asking.

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A pleasure Simon.

It's interesting, though, that I see on page 474 of your book that you wrote that "it is hard to understand" how the police reached the conclusion so soon after the murders of Stride and Eddowes that they were the work of the same person, that person having been disturbed while murdering Stride.

Do you find it equally hard to understand how W.T. Madge reached the same conclusion so soon after the murders?
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Hi David,

It might be a case of W.T. Madge being wise after the event.

Thomas Catling didn't mention his presence that morning.

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It might be a case of W.T. Madge being wise after the event.

Thomas Catling didn't mention his presence that morning.
I fail to see why Catling should even have seen Madge that morning let alone mentioned his presence. Do they both say they were in Whitechapel at exactly the same time, let alone in the exact same location at the same time?

Perhaps the fact that Madge did not mention seeing Catling means that we should doubt Catling's story of being there?

But it seems to me that you ARE saying that you WOULD find it hard to understand how Madge would have reached such a conclusion so soon after the murders, if he actually did. Is that right?
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Hi David,

Absolutely.

If Madge actually did.

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Thanks for clarifying Simon.
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What would Madge be referring to when he says "he managed to find the house and saw into the room where the body of the woman was lying?" I suppose both uses of the word "house" in regard to the victims of the Double Event must mean where the bodies were by the time Madge found them, as we know both Stride and Eddowes died outside.

That actually makes some sense, I think, given that Madge wrote that it was about 2 o'clock in the morning when he was told of the first murder. He wouldn't have found Stride still in the courtyard at that time -- would he?
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