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Old 09-14-2017, 08:09 AM
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Well if you dont read it, and find out, you are in no position to criticise
I was guessing by your flippant remark of "did I dream it" that those details are not included in your book.

If you`ve read any of my articles you should have noted I`m all about facts and details, rather than convoluted theories (judging by your posts on the subject)
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I was guessing by your flippant remark of "did I dream it" that those details are not included in your book.
Well if you have evidence that happened put it up !

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Well if you have evidence that happened put it up !
No, it`ll be in my book ;-)
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:51 AM
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No, it`ll be in my book ;-)
Well if that had have happened other than in your dreams, their evidence would have been different. it would have been

"At ------ such and such a time on--------------date. At Bishopsgate Police Station, I was shown a piece of apron, which I "believe" came from the apron the victim was wearing the night of her murder"

But of course neither said that did they?

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Hi Steve,

On the contrary, actually. The sources are very good and if you study them you may see the pattern.

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It depends on which sources one uses.
When we see the ones you are using perhaps we will all be enlightened..


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Well in the case of Eddowes we have the signed depositions, and we can test that evidence, examples of which I have previously shown on this thread. So it must be the truth, unless they lied, or were trying to be to helpful, as in the evidence of Hutt and Robinson.
And your supporting source for this statement about Butt and Robinson is?

Once again Trevor we have your opinion presented as fact.
I asked for a reasoned counter to their testimony, the response amounts to "I don't believe them".

That just will not convince anyone.

What it looks like is that their testimony does not fit the theory you suggest and thus you simply dismiss it.

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And your supporting source for this statement about Butt and Robinson is?

Once again Trevor we have your opinion presented as fact.
I asked for a reasoned counter to their testimony, the response amounts to "I don't believe them".

That just will not convince anyone.

What it looks like is that their testimony does not fit the theory you suggest and thus you simply dismiss it.

Steve
I have already stated the reasons why their testimony is unsafe and given an example in previous posts if you don't accept those reasons so be it

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Old 09-14-2017, 11:36 AM
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I have already stated the reasons why their testimony is unsafe and given an example in previous posts if you don't accept those reasons so be it

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I appear to have missed it Trevor. Post number pls?

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Old 09-14-2017, 11:40 AM
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I have already stated the reasons why their testimony is unsafe and given an example in previous posts if you don't accept those reasons so be it

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The reasons are so new that the believers in the old reasons can not accept them of course.

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I have already stated the reasons why their testimony is unsafe and given an example in previous posts if you don't accept those reasons so be it

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Trevor,
I have reread your post on this thread.
I find arguments for disputing there identification of the apron pieces as belonging to the one she was wearing. However those arguments are once again just your view of what you consider reasonable, however I have no issue with that although I tend to disagree.
I see nothing you have posted to counter the claim that when in custody she was wearing a apron.

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